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What specs do you really need to run VS11 and burn dvd's quickly?

I am at present burning a 1hr 4min video and it is taken so far about 3 hours using the dv-to-dvd process in VS11.

This is only on Standard mode as well.

Since at this stage I am only wanting to burn the entire tape to disc for back-up and watchable reasons would it be a quicker process just buying a recordable dvd player and plugging my dv camera into it via firewire or analogue.

I mean I watch the dv tape through my camera connected to the ports on my vhs video player and 1 hour is 1 hour if I recorded the dv tape on a vhs tape.

No problems no crashing no bad discs.

But although I love the idea of being in control via a computer the whole process is just slow ruddy slow.

Now if I edited a mixture of scenes and clips in VS11 to create a unique movie then I can understand and be prepared to wait 3 to 5 hours but just to create a back up disc of memories and film the slow process of rendering and auto video editing etc is just so slow.

My sound card isn't that good as the other died on me but the rest of my spec of computer is good.

Should I upgrade to speed everything up?

Hi

If you just want to back up your footage then you have that in the form of Mini- Dv tape.

If you capture to Dv-Avi and save the files to disc at 13 Gb per hour would use a few discs. (4)
But that¡¦s just a copy of the tape in DV-Avi, sure you could edit later.

Capturing to DVD (Mpeg 2) is an option, but not recommended for editing as you have Avi???? If you want top quality edit in Avi.

Its pointless capturing to Dv-Avi, converting to Mpeg 2 as a backup, intending to edit later.

OK

I capture to DV-Avi (real time)
Edit the project (as long as it takes)
Create a video file from the project to make Mpeg 2 file ( takes 2.25 times the run time, It¡¦s my pc that¡¦s slow, see my system info, a fast pc will do in real time)

Now I burn the disc, it takes approx 30 minutes ( anything from 15 to 45 depending on menu selected)

So 3 hours for your DVD, sounds about right, not bad to say its including the full process from capture to burn.
And no crashes has to be good.

trevor andrew wrote:Hi

If you just want to back up your footage then you have that in the form of Mini- Dv tape.

If you capture to Dv-Avi and save the files to disc at 13 Gb per hour would use a few discs. (4)
But that¡¦s just a copy of the tape in DV-Avi, sure you could edit later.

Capturing to DVD (Mpeg 2) is an option, but not recommended for editing as you have Avi???? If you want top quality edit in Avi.

Its pointless capturing to Dv-Avi, converting to Mpeg 2 as a backup, intending to edit later.

OK

I capture to DV-Avi (real time)
Edit the project (as long as it takes)
Create a video file from the project to make Mpeg 2 file ( takes 2.25 times the run time, It¡¦s my pc that¡¦s slow, see my system info, a fast pc will do in real time)

Now I burn the disc, it takes approx 30 minutes ( anything from 15 to 45 depending on menu selected)

So 3 hours for your DVD, sounds about right, not bad to say its including the full process from capture to burn.
And no crashes has to be good.

Hello Trevor,

Very true about the back-up dv tape as I will not be recording over them.

I don't fully understand the Mpeg2 format yet but I guess it has to be better quality than recording through a VHS video tape...

So why is it pointless converting to Mpeg2 to then be edited later?

I captured using dv-to-dvd at full speed and after it had burned the final dvd some parts of the recording were missing! So this time I am capturing in real time so a good point.

What specs are a fast pc nowadays cos I want one!

The first burning did crash on me and I thought it was because of the content packs I downloaded yesterday as my dvd drive wasn't being recognised in the program and I had to download a patch mentioned in another topic.

I have read that a dv tape is loseless? So it won't break down with age? Sometimes I wish I bought an sd card type camera but this is all new to me.

With the worlds tv going digital I don't understand how news cameramen get their footage uploaded and edited for live tv so quickly.

Why can't they make a camera that burns straight onto a dvd? So instead of putting a dv tape in you put a dvd in instead.

poshrat wrote:Why can't they make a camera that burns straight onto a dvd? So instead of putting a dv tape in you put a dvd in instead.

Please view This link

Regarding different formats please view
Brief Summary of AVI and MPEG2 formats

sjj1805 wrote:

poshrat wrote:Why can't they make a camera that burns straight onto a dvd? So instead of putting a dv tape in you put a dvd in instead.

Please view This link

Regarding different formats please view
Brief Summary of AVI and MPEG2 formats

Yikes, I am so behind the times. Better get me an Argos catalogue. You'll be telling me they have flat screen tv's next. Thanks for the link.... sorry!

poshrat wrote:.........
Yikes, I am so behind the times. Better get me an Argos catalogue. You'll be telling me they have flat screen tv's next. Thanks for the link.... sorry!

Here's another link then...
Argos online

sjj1805 wrote:

poshrat wrote:.........
Yikes, I am so behind the times. Better get me an Argos catalogue. You'll be telling me they have flat screen tv's next. Thanks for the link.... sorry!

Here's another link then...
Argos online

When I bought my camera I didn't really do that much research accept about the price and make as the moving image is all new to me. The NV-GS60 is (as far as I know a very good video camera) But I have been looking through the Argos catalogue today and sometimes wished I saved my money for a bit longer and bought one of those hard drive HD camera since you can record for 20+ hrs (doesn't mention the battery life)

But, then again I have had 2 usb hard drive crashes due to corruption and although I bought a program to get the data back, when your dealing with family memories I do feel more secure the recorded film is on a dv tape that can be stored.

You can never have too many back ups.
With photo's I don't want to lose, I keep copies in at least 2 different computers, also on an external 1TB hard drive, plus I make copies on DVD's - at least one for me and then I hand out copies to each of my 3 sons.

sjj1805 wrote:You can never have too many back ups.
With photo's I don't want to lose, I keep copies in at least 2 different computers, also on an external 1TB hard drive, plus I make copies on DVD's - at least one for me and then I hand out copies to each of my 3 sons.

Yes, very true. I use fotki.com for my photos but haven't found any site which can save my videos in dv quality format yet.

You will probably give me a link now

Poshrat, you should look at a system upgrade if you want the rendering to go quicker and smoother operation in general. Backup, there are "Raided" external hard drives available, this is two hard drives saving the same data at the same time, so if one hard drive dies, the other has the information. Great for backups and quick too.

martythebrit wrote:Poshrat, you should look at a system upgrade if you want the rendering to go quicker and smoother operation in general. Backup, there are "Raided" external hard drives available, this is two hard drives saving the same data at the same time, so if one hard drive dies, the other has the information. Great for backups and quick too.

I don't think I can upgrade much more with this now obsolete system. A friend said I should save my money and get a Socket AM2 machine.

The raided external hard drive sounds a good idea. My last one to corrupt due to a power cut was 600gb and took ages to get the info back.

Thanks for the info.

I like the NAS storage solutions in particular the DLink DNS-323
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=327810
(doesnt include hard drives)
It's a network attached storage device that you connect to through
your network or with a network crossover cable.
You stick 2 SATA hard drives into into and you have mirrored storage.
That and a decent UPS is a good backup solution.

I personally like the Galaxy NAS products which I use myself, not sure where you are located, here in the U.S. Newegg has some great deals. You only need a cross-over cable if you¡¦re plugging it directly into the computer NIC, otherwise a straight through cable is needed to plug-it into your router, switch or whatever you have. A decent UPS will help too, so you don't have a sudden power loss to your device.