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Don't be in a rush to get a new version. If you want an example of what I mean I have one word:

Vista.

When Corel are satisfied that the new version is ready, they will release it.
In the meantime Japan continue to be the beta testers!!

What narks me is the implication by some people here that they have a RIGHT to a new version on a given date. Neither Ulead nor Corel have ever implied that.

I don't know that anyone has said they had a right to a new version at a particular time. But when a company releases a new version around the same time every year (for at least the last 5 years), and a new version was released in Japan around that same time, people expected it to be available. People are just wondering what's up.

Black Lab wrote:

What narks me is the implication by some people here that they have a RIGHT to a new version on a given date. Neither Ulead nor Corel have ever implied that.

I don't know that anyone has said they had a right to a new version at a particular time. But when a company releases a new version around the same time every year (for at least the last 5 years), and a new version was released in Japan around that same time, people expected it to be available. People are just wondering what's up.

You see what I mean by 'implication'?

Remember also that it is a different company that will be launching it this time. Ulead and Corel may have different policies for testing and releasing, so what has happened in the past may be very different from what happens now - or in the future.

No, I am not sure what you meant by "implication". A dictionary says the definition of imply is "to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated". So to release a new software version around March/April for 5 years would "imply" to me that you could reasonably expect that trend to continue.

But you are correct. Corel could, and obviously does, have different ways of doing things that we are not necessarily used to.

sjj1805 wrote:Don't be in a rush to get a new version. If you want an example of what I mean I have one word:

Vista.

When Corel are satisfied that the new version is ready, they will release it.
In the meantime Japan continue to be the beta testers!!

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I respectfully disagree, vista is not bad because it was rushed, imho, it is bad because of Microsoft arrogance, that it can do no wrong.

Maybe the delay in VS12 is to solve another one of my wishes .. maybe Corel will come up with a Mac version of VS12!

dblml320 wrote:maybe Corel will come up with a Mac version of VS12!

Dream on...

Anyway, Linux would come before Mac, and that's just as much a dream (or nightmare!) and the Mac guys are already served with FCP.

Probably still trying to get rid of old stock.....

martythebrit wrote:Probably still trying to get rid of old stock.....

Let's hope not! They can always write off the loss of the old stock, but they cannot write off the loss of customers ... who are getting the very real feeling that VS12 is a dead product.

dblml320 wrote:
Let's hope not! They can always write off the loss of the old stock, but they cannot write off the loss of customers ... who are getting the very real feeling that VS12 is a dead product.

I cannot understand that feeling. It IS on the way, but my gut feeling is that it is not likely to be announced until all the N. hemisphere summer breaks are finished. It would be stupid to launch a product while half the clientèle are sipping pino coladas on the beach. In many countries the school hols last until end Aug/early Sep.

Patience, please

I also believe something is wrong. Pinnacle and Vegas already announced the new consumer products, MS12 is available and Vegas 9 will be in few weeks. The comment that the VS12 won't have BluRay authoring is a big let down.

For Goodness' sake! As far as anyone knows, there is nothing wrong so why stick on rumour-mongering? You don't know it won't support BluRay; all you surmise is that the Japanese beta version didn't but that means nothing for the final product.

And what does it matter if the competition are announcing theirs? Someone has to be first and someone has to be last. We can hope that, if VS12 is last, iit will outshine all the others. The time scale is unimportant; the quality is infinitely more important.

As I said before: PATIENCE. I'm reasonably sure that nothing will be announced this month or next month for reasons I've already evoked.

I hope the Japenese release wasn't a beta, I'd be really upset if I got a beta product in a retail box!! Most bugs should be worked out at this point.

sjj1805 wrote:Don't be in a rush to get a new version. If you want an example of what I mean I have one word:

Vista.

When Corel are satisfied that the new version is ready, they will release it.
In the meantime Japan continue to be the beta testers!!

I too have a corrupted version of Vista, as of this week. At approximately 2:45AM one morning I was allowing Vista to install "important" updates, including the monthly anti-malware hard drive scanner. I also allowed an update from ATI/AMD for the Catalyst graphics driver software to be installed.

At 3:00AM, local daylight savings time, -GMT-7- Microsoft's automatic daily update procedure kicked in right in the middle of the simultaneous drive scan and ATI driver installation. The driver is now corrupted, but tries to reinstall in an endless loop of rebooting. I have the installation process in quarantine.

Just now I discovered another problem. The Corel /Cyberlink codecs installed as part of the VisualStudio 11.5+ boxed/downloaded package cause Windows (Vista) Explorer to crash on unrelated 3rd party program folders.

Fortunately my Acer laptop LCD backlight failed two months ago and I made a complete backup to an external HD using the (apparently) very good "ghosting" backup software that is standard with Vista. And so it goes. Who needs VS12+? Not me, not now. And all because the grandkids grandmother said, "We've got to have a video camera".
JM_2

Devil wrote:For Goodness' sake! As far as anyone knows, there is nothing wrong so why stick on rumour-mongering? You don't know it won't support BluRay; all you surmise is that the Japanese beta version didn't but that means nothing for the final product.

If a company has a product and it keeps it under the hood instead of selling, I am sure that at least not everything is OK.
Does Corel also know that they sell beta version in Japan? Have you told them? Or, again, you just think you know something?

VideoStudio 12 is a "dead product"? It won't support Blu-ray? It's being maliciously kept "under the hood" because there's something wrong with it? WHERE does this stuff come from?!?

No I can't say much (not keeping anyone "in the dark", merely applying standard industry non-disclosure practice) so you have to read between the lines:

Ulead is no longer Ulead, it is now Corel. Japan is not the rest of the world. Schedules are adapted according to resource allocation and market dynamics. Rumor-mongering based on wild assumptions does nobody any favors. Patience is a virtue and will be rewarded, sometimes after only a month or two.

Tobie