VS12 Where Is It?

dblml320 · Post by **dblml320** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:30 pm

Anyone concerned as I am, that Corel may not release VS12 in the USA? I mean it has been M.I.A. for almost 3 months now, based on the yearly in May Ulead update cycle.

Maybe they are conjuring up a super duper new pro version, or combining VideoStudio with Movie Factory. The point is, we need to know. Pinnacle Studio 12 is looking mighty nice these days.

C'mon Corel, if you care about your customers you need to publish the VS and DVDMF road maps for 2008.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:42 pm

Yes, I agree that Corel may be missing the boat by at least not keeping us informed as to what is going on. We are used to annual releases of a new product. Well, are we or aren't we going to get one this year? As you say, moving on to a competitor that has all the latest bells and whistles looks quite tempting.

Hopefully Corel is waiting on the release until all the bugs get worked out. It would be wonderful if v12 worked perfectly right out of the box.

But in the mean time they could at least give us a "Coming Soon" to keep us in the loop and keep people from jumping ship.

COREL, ARE YOU LISTENING (er, reading)

John Moran_2 · Post by **John Moran_2** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:47 pm

"Properties" of the 11.5 Power Pack file give a hint that we may already have the v12 upgrade version.

JM_2

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:41 pm

It's on its way, but there is a lot of testing after the Japanese trials, I surmise. Patience is a virtue which will rewarded, but I doubt it won't be for some time: they will not issue it in the July/August vacation period, I fear.

Kaledi · Post by **Kaledi** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:47 pm

Well, I've just discovered Cyberlink (bought PowerDVD after trying it and finding that it actually uses hardware acceleration on my ATI HD3470, graphics card - WinDVD just doesn't use it, even if it says it does).

PowerDirector looks very interesting indeed and I'm getting rather annoyed that I'm waiting out for improved AVCHD/MPEG2HD support (e.g. better implementation of profiles) and the use of multicore technology on MPEG2 encoding (again, this is very limited in the current version).

I've got some big projects coming up and am waiting for a new version, but if not I'm going elsewhere (I've had every version of VS & MF from version 6 and 2 respectively)

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:52 pm

John Moran_2 wrote:"Properties" of the 11.5 Power Pack file give a hint that we may already have the v12 upgrade version.
JM_2

How so?

John Moran_2 · Post by **John Moran_2** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:18 pm

It's in the Details.
-Oops. it looks like it is version 12.0.0.xxxx for the InstallShield
application, not Visual Studio. My apologies.

I would post a snippet image of the details, but it seems I do not have posting privileges.
JM_2

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:31 pm

FYI - To post images they must be available on a website or you must upload them to a service such as Image Shack.

Kaledi · Post by **Kaledi** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:04 pm

I don't know if this is any indication of a release date for VS12, but today I got an email flyer from Corel promoting the offer they have on VS11.5 and PSP X2.
Currently, you can save money on both online, with the offer running until the end of August for PSP X2 and the end of July for Vs11.5.
Could mean nothing of course, but as a summer promotion, the earlier finish for VS11.5 could be a signal that they will completely stop selling VS11 at this point?

Xyzzy2 · Post by **Xyzzy2** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:30 pm

OK, my bet is that they've just forgotten.

dmz · Post by **dmz** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:12 am

Having got an email advertising a reduced price for upgrade to VS11.5 plus, I suspect that V12 is kept quiet so that they can convince people to go to vs11.5 first and make more money. Thats my guess..

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:10 am

I don't think sarcasm is very useful here. Which would you prefer, a thoroughly tested and reliable product or one that crashes at the drop of a hat? Is it not worth the wait, rather than be bogged down with fixes that cure the previous fixes but introduce new bugs?

I'm pretty sure it is on its way, but my guess (I have no insider knowledge) is that you may have to wait another couple of months or so. What narks me is the implication by some people here that they have a RIGHT to a new version on a given date. Neither Ulead nor Corel have ever implied that. You have no right, other than to make the decision to upgrade or not WHEN Corel decides that the software is ready for release, when THEY choose.

Xyzzy2 · Post by **Xyzzy2** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:38 am

Devil wrote:I don't think sarcasm is very useful here. Which would you prefer, a thoroughly tested and reliable product or one that crashes at the drop of a hat? Is it not worth the wait, rather than be bogged down with fixes that cure the previous fixes but introduce new bugs?

Working for an IT company much bigger than Corel, I must assure you that Corel is now NOT puting all the effort into testing, retesting and bug fixing VS, unless they do things other way than rest of the world. It's just your figment.

Devil wrote: I'm pretty sure it is on its way, but my guess (I have no insider knowledge) is that you may have to wait another couple of months or so. What narks me is the implication by some people here that they have a RIGHT to a new version on a given date.

No, some people wonder why Corel doesn't release a product which is apparently ready.

Devil wrote: Neither Ulead nor Corel have ever implied that. You have no right, other than to make the decision to upgrade or not WHEN Corel decides that the software is ready for release, when THEY choose.

Yeah, I have no right, but to choose another product. I made my decision and the upgrade money went to Pinnacle Studio at reduced price offer, it's also fun. And with VS I am still at v9. For me, Corel can wait till next year, no problem.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:52 am

Xyzzy2 wrote: Working for an IT company much bigger than Corel, I must assure you that Corel is now NOT puting all the effort into testing, retesting and bug fixing VS, unless they do things other way than rest of the world. It's just your figment.

There is only a very small handful of IT software companies that are MUCH bigger than Corel. At least two that come to mind are not renowned for anything other than bloated, unreliable software and I would hardly consider them a criterion of quality by which to judge others. You have no idea whatsoever of what makes Corel tick. I have beta-tested softwares, as well as written scientific instrumentation programs, from several companies (including Ulead) and I can assure you that each has totally different MOs as to the procedure from the start of alpha testing to launches, so there is no "rest of the world". I suspect you have a very limited knowledge of different software producers.

Xyzzy2 · Post by **Xyzzy2** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:17 am

Devil wrote: There is only a very small handful of IT software companies that are MUCH bigger than Corel. At least two that come to mind are not renowned for anything other than bloated, unreliable software and I would hardly consider them a criterion of quality by which to judge others.

Hehe, I don't dare to discuss with such an expert.

Devil wrote: You have no idea whatsoever of what makes Corel tick.

And you? Share your knowledge!

Devil wrote: I have beta-tested softwares, as well as written scientific instrumentation programs, from several companies (including Ulead)

Oh boy, that's a big, serious, complicated software that you've tested! And you say BETA testing! You've been really deep into software qa!

Devil wrote: Others and I can assure you that each has totally different MOs as to the procedure from the start of alpha testing to launches, so there is no "rest of the world". I suspect you have a very limited knowledge of different software producers.

Name a well-known company that rushes to testing/bugfixing after product release??? I am really curious. A process of project-development-release-testing is a novelty to me.
And your suspicions are right, I've worked for just a few out of hundreds big ones.