DVD import failure, Report ID: 0x80040901(2305)

[Jasper Hendriks]

Hello there,

I'm having a problem when I read DVD-files from a directory on my PC.
They were firewire captured onto a sony-DVD-recorder to a DVD-R.
Thereafter I copied the contents of the DVD to a directory on my PC.
Then I import it in videostudio and get the following dialog box text:
translated from dutch to english: Reading of DVD-information failed (Lezen van DVD informatie mislukt).
Report ID: 0x80040901(2305)

My setup: videostudio 11.5 plus with all the upgrades installed.

I dont get this message when importing original (non-copyrighted) DVD's from a directory, in that case everything works fine.
Capturing directly from my camera is not an option for me (firewire
incompatibility issues) and I already did my research on the internet
and corel support forum.

More information:
I think it has something to do with codec-incompatibility issue of videostudio.

I have burnt the DVD with a sony-dvd-recorder and it is DVD compliant
because it's viewable on another standalone DVD player.
To be exact: my recorder is a sony RDR-HX950 and the burnt DVD on this
recorder is viewable on another sony NS700 SACD/DVD player.
So how can I make the files (.vob) compatible with videostudio?
I am able to play it in the windows media player,

My movie was burnt with the following specs (according to the information
tab of the program "DVD-rip n' burn" (freeware)):
MPEG1 NTSC 16:9 and I used the HQ setting (not the regular SP) for
recording on my sony-DVD-recorder. I recorded from a Sharp VL-SD20
(mini-DV) camcorder and used firewire to transfer it straight to DVD via
the DVD-recorder.

Can someone help me out please?

Best regards,
Jasper Hendriks
( magic levitron omega anti gravity movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkqnKiYXroM
)

[Ken Berry]

Welcome to the forums!

First, it would be very useful if you would fill in the Profile button at the top of this web page. That way, if you come back, we won't have to ask you each time what your computer specifications are.

Next, I would be very interested to hear what 'firewire incompatibilities' you are having. As far as I am aware, if you have a standard PC running Windows Me/2000/XP/Vista, and have a Firewire card and cable, the DV codec which is installed as part of Windows is not incompatible with anything... And if something goes wrong with the card or cable, they are simple and cheap to replace ($20 here in Australia for a firewire card with cable).

The next difficulty is that .vob files are in an internationally recognised format already and part of the international DVD standard. That being said, I note that DVD Rip 'n Burn has converted your high quality DV from the camera to low quality mpeg-2. (Regardless of your HQ setting, mpeg-1 by its very nature is low quality compared to mpeg-2). Moreover, I am a little puzzled why it has converted it to NTSC format as well, when I would have thought that if you are from the Netherlands, your DV camera would be a PAL one.

Mpeg-1, regardless of its quality, can, however, be burned to DVD in .vob files. To read mpeg-1, Video Studio uses the mpeg-1 codec installed as part of Windows (the same as the DV codec). So unless your mpeg-1 .vob files have some Sony-specific code written into it, or is corrupt in some small way, I cannot understand why VS cannot import it.

One fall-back you could try is simply to change the extension of the files on your computer from .vob to .mpg because that is all they are - mpeg files. Then simply open the .mpg files in VS. Don't use Insert DVD/DVD-VR for that. Simply use 'Insert Video' and browse to where the renamed .vob/.mpg files are stored.

However, if they are indeed mpeg-1, you will have totally lost any of the original quality of your DV camera. So I would really be working to get your 'firewire incompatibilities' sorted out quickly!!

[sjj1805]

.......
Capturing directly from my camera is not an option for me (firewire
incompatibility issues) and I already did my research on the internet
and corel support forum.

......... I recorded from a Sharp VL-SD20
(mini-DV) camcorder and used firewire to transfer it straight to DVD via
the DVD-recorder.
.......

Your camcorder has firewire, perhaps you can elaborate on the problems you have getting the video from the camcorder to the hard drive via firewire directly rather than having to go via a sony-dvd-recorder.

At the moment it sounds as though you have put a sticky plaster on the problem and are now trying to get the sticky plaster to stick rather than fix the real problem

[Jasper Hendriks]

Thank you for your reply,

I'm sorry for not filling out my profile, I just did.

My Sharp VL-SD20 gets a blocky picture in Vista when capturing (in every capture program, same under windows XP on another PC (Quadcore 6600)), I got it running under W98 (on an old PC) doing registry tricks and changing twain drivers but I dont want to go into that hassle again.

I'm sorry if I didnt make it clear to you but I did not convert anything with DVD Rip n' burn. I only used it to get information about the type of MPEG file generated by my sony recorder when put on HQ mode. And it seems it's MPEG1 (.vob files with MPEG1 codec encapsulated), at least thats what the program tells me it is.

Furithermore the files generated by my sony DVD-recorder (.vob MPEG1) run flawlessly in windows media player and import in other programs like AviDemux, so I share the same opinion as you: why can't VS11+ import them.

Jasper

Welcome to the forums!

First, it would be very useful if you would fill in the Profile button at the top of this web page. That way, if you come back, we won't have to ask you each time what your computer specifications are.

Next, I would be very interested to hear what 'firewire incompatibilities' you are having. As far as I am aware, if you have a standard PC running Windows Me/2000/XP/Vista, and have a Firewire card and cable, the DV codec which is installed as part of Windows is not incompatible with anything... And if something goes wrong with the card or cable, they are simple and cheap to replace ($20 here in Australia for a firewire card with cable).

The next difficulty is that .vob files are in an internationally recognised format already and part of the international DVD standard. That being said, I note that DVD Rip 'n Burn has converted your high quality DV from the camera to low quality mpeg-2. (Regardless of your HQ setting, mpeg-1 by its very nature is low quality compared to mpeg-2). Moreover, I am a little puzzled why it has converted it to NTSC format as well, when I would have thought that if you are from the Netherlands, your DV camera would be a PAL one.

Mpeg-1, regardless of its quality, can, however, be burned to DVD in .vob files. To read mpeg-1, Video Studio uses the mpeg-1 codec installed as part of Windows (the same as the DV codec). So unless your mpeg-1 .vob files have some Sony-specific code written into it, or is corrupt in some small way, I cannot understand why VS cannot import it.

One fall-back you could try is simply to change the extension of the files on your computer from .vob to .mpg because that is all they are - mpeg files. Then simply open the .mpg files in VS. Don't use Insert DVD/DVD-VR for that. Simply use 'Insert Video' and browse to where the renamed .vob/.mpg files are stored.

However, if they are indeed mpeg-1, you will have totally lost any of the original quality of your DV camera. So I would really be working to get your 'firewire incompatibilities' sorted out quickly!!

[Jasper Hendriks]

Thank you for your reply,

Maybe I should just get rid of my Sharp and buy a Sony.
Do you have any recommendations?
I would like a DVD-writer (or blue ray) build into it and not too expensive (<1000 Euro)

Best regards,
Jasper

.......
Capturing directly from my camera is not an option for me (firewire
incompatibility issues) and I already did my research on the internet
and corel support forum.

......... I recorded from a Sharp VL-SD20
(mini-DV) camcorder and used firewire to transfer it straight to DVD via
the DVD-recorder.
.......

Your camcorder has firewire, perhaps you can elaborate on the problems you have getting the video from the camcorder to the hard drive via firewire directly rather than having to go via a sony-dvd-recorder.

At the moment it sounds as though you have put a sticky plaster on the problem and are now trying to get the sticky plaster to stick rather than fix the real problem

[Ron P.]

I would suggest that since your camcorder is a mini-DV which should record in DV (avi), the problem is with the DVD recorder. For some reason it is recording in MPEG-1 and not MPEG-2. The data (video) in your camcorder is DV, and there's no changing that.

Is there some menu settings in your DVD recorder that you can change so that it records to MPEG-2? MPEG-1 is a very low resolution video compression.

I would also recommend trying to transfer (capture) your video straight from the camcorder to your PC using the firewire. This would give you a very good quality video to edit, and then burn to DVD.

The only way "I" would replace the camcorder is to upgrade to a High-Def camcorder. There's no reason to just replace it, as it records to a format that is one of the easiest to edit, and of the highest quality for SD (Standard Definition) video. I still use a DV camcorder, and maybe over the next year I might upgrade to the newer HD camcorders. However that would mean that I would also have to purchase a HD TV...

[Jasper Hendriks]

I just ordered a new blue-ray camera from hitachi, I'll post my findings once I receive it,

Jasper

[Ron P.]

Be sure to read up on the HD posts by Ken and etech so that you'll be prepared to edit those brilliant clips..

[Jasper Hendriks]

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Jasper

In the past I had problems with my old Canon showing blocky or square pixels during capture or playback.
Cleaning the heads on the camcorder proved to be a successful option.

If it is a camcorder problem then exporting the data to a DVD-Recorder would probably show problems, resulting in corrupt video data.

If you haven¡¦t cleaned the heads then it may be worth the effort.
Follow the head cleaners instructions, it only takes about 10 seconds.

[Jasper Hendriks]

Thank you all for your thoughtful suggestions, almost every program has bugs so I think it's only fair to report it, even if it's not a bug but a feature or my mistake.

Jasper