Maximum output size without compression to fit a disc

[richsimpson]

Is it possible and if so how do you work it, so that a file can be output to a dvd folder, but not to a disc over the size of a standard single or dual layer disc.

Many programs allow this but I cant see a way in VS 11.5+ to do this.


Everytime I try to create a larger folder VS automatically tells me its too big. Do I want it to try to fit to the dual layer disc size.

The answer is no I dont but thats not an option, if you hit no it just goes back to the project.

[Ron P.]

Creating DVD Folders is actually burning the DVD without the DVD. Make sense?

VS is just substituting your hard drive for the DVD. All files included in the DVD Folders are the same as what is on the actual DVD. So DVD specs are adhered to, and this is what decides the sizes. The files (BUP, ISO, and VOB enclosed in a Video_TS folder) are all part of the DVD structure, what DVD players need to see in order to play them.

So if other programs are allowing "oversized" DVD folders, then I'd have to say that the other programs are breaking the DVD rules, and that you could not actually burn those folders to a DVD and have those DVDs play in a stand-alone DVD player.

[tyamada]

You can do it for a 4.7 Gig disk by selecting output for 8.5 Gig disk. I've done it, however, I haven't tried to make a disk larger than 8.5 Gig.

[richsimpson]

Thanks all.

Thats what I was getting at.

If you want to make a single layer disc you could fool the program to make a dual layer disc then use a shrink program like DVD Shrink which is great and quick and you can see it is actually doing something.

I wanted to try to make a larger than dual layer disc and then shrink that.

Tmpeg Author allows it but only to a certain size, VS11 doesnt allow anything largr than standard DVD sizes which is a shame.
Its following my post about the output files taking 24 hours plus to create (never got to the end of one!) because the files were 12gb.

I wanted to make teh dvd folder and then shrink to fit a dual layer disc.

Instead I had to rercord the original footage for about 4 hours at a lower quality. Thats still not sorted though as it was a bit blury, see seperate post again!

[Devil]

It is not at all clever to make an over-sized file and then shrink it. The quality will suffer from the double rendering, especially as the shrinking rendering engines cut a lot of corners.

If you MUST capture to MPEG-2 (and it is already second-best because MPG files are meant solely for distribution and not for working with), then do so directly in a DVD-compliant format with bitrates suitable for directly burning your final project with no further encoding. That is the only way to obtain good quality. Any other manipulations will be negative.

Better still, capture to a near-lossless avi format, do your editing and everything else in the same format with the same settings and only then encode to DVD-compliant MPEG-2 to aim for 4.0-4.1 Gb mpg files (SD disc). THAT will give you the best quality!