Video Studio 11.5 Plus - no preview screen

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Video Studio 11.5 Plus - no preview screen

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It arrived today, but the manual inside said Videostudio 11, so I take it that 11.5 its the same as 11.0?

Installed it and it did not work. I could not find a preview window, Error whan I tried to use it said:-

Capture Module initialization failed. Open Driver Failed. Cannot create the video capture, [15200:43:0], [15064:20:0] ??????

Manual had not useful fault finding section. All drivers were updated in Control Panel Device Manager.

Yes I am running Vista 64 with SP1 and up to today Video Studio 7 and it worked!

My system eats the specs given: Intel Quad Core @ 3GHz, 8GB Of OCZ PC2-8500 RAM, SB X-fi, ATi X1950 Pro.

Anyone got an answer?

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It arrived today, but the manual inside said Videostudio 11, so I take it that 11.5 its the same as 11.0?
11.0 with all of the updates is the same as 11.5.

Capture Module initialization failed. Open Driver Failed. Cannot create the video capture, [15200:43:0], [15064:20:0] ??????
Are you trying to capture? Or does that error message just pop-up for no reason? If you are trying to capture, what are you trying to capture from? (It could be a 64-bit driver problem.)
Yes I am running Vista 64 with SP1
I don't know if it runs on Vista64... The System Requirements
are not clear.... They clearly say XP64, but they just says "Vista"...
System Requirements (For general and Proxy HDV Editing)
- Intel Pentium?4 (equivalent)or higher recommended
- Microsoft Windows XP SP2 Home Edition/Professional,
Windows XP Media Center Edition, Windows XP
Professional x64 Edition, Windows Vista

- 512 MB (Depending on the video capture device used, 1
GB RAM may be recommended)
- 1 GB of available hard disk space for program installation
- Windows-compatible sound card (multi-channel sound
card for surround sound support recommended)
- Windows-compatible CD-ROM for installation
Non-Proxy HDV editing requires:
- Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz or higher with Hyper-Threading
technology
- Microsoft Windows XP (Service Pack2 for HDV camcorder
support recommended)
- 1 GB of RAM (2GB or more recommended)
- 16X PCI Express display adapter
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Yes, it runs on Vista 64. Several members have that, including one of our Advisors, Clevo.

But it is, as DVD Doug says, a matter of going to the Ulead.com site, clicking the Download button, and following the prompts to VS updates. Then download and install in this order: the 6 November 2007 update patch and the 8 November Power Pack. Ignore the later Hot Fix as that only relates to one specific problem explained in its notes. Then open VS, click on the ? symbol in the top right of the VS screen, then 'About VS'. The version number should now be 11.5.0157.2.

Note that the 6 Nov update patch in particular corrected some faults in the Capture process introduced into VS11 when Corel changed the capture plug-ins that had worked with previous version.
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What When & How

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I am trying to capture a VHS tape using a Digitus DA-VC211A Pocket USB 2.0 Video Grabber.

Now this item works on VideoStudio 7 SE Basic (even in Vista 64). I have updated my drivers for it from MIcrosoft.

I can hear the sound but have no preview screen have tried it using both S-Video and Composite Video leads and have replace them to be sure.

I would imagine that the two codes I stated would mean something:-

[15200:43:0] also [15064:20:0]

This is fustrating.

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Re: Video Studio 11.5 Plus

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jannerhank wrote:It arrived today, but the manual inside said Videostudio 11, so I take it that 11.5 its the same as 11.0?

Installed it and it did not work. I could not find a preview window, Error whan I tried to use it said:-

Capture Module initialization failed. Open Driver Failed. Cannot create the video capture, [15200:43:0], [15064:20:0] ??????

Manual had not useful fault finding section. All drivers were updated in Control Panel Device Manager.

Yes I am running Vista 64 with SP1 and up to today Video Studio 7 and it worked!

My system eats the specs given: Intel Quad Core @ 3GHz, 8GB Of OCZ PC2-8500 RAM, SB X-fi, ATi X1950 Pro.

Anyone got an answer?

jannerhank
On the Box it states "Certified For Windows Vista" this means that it has been tested by MICROSOFT in both 32-bit and 64-bit

This should not be confused with "Works with Windows Vista" which is not tested by Microsoft and may not work in Vista 64-bit!
There are a few articles on this if you hunt for them on the web

Regards

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Post by Ken Berry »

Just be aware that a lot of hardware manufacturers of devices such as yours quite often tweak software, including the version of VS they distribute with their devices, to work properly with it. So it is very possible that the (by now very old) version of VS 7 SE Basic (which means not only Basic but crippled) may have been tweaked to work with the capture device. But that by now means suggests that later versions of Video Studio will work with the device.
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Video Studio 11.5 Plus

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While I tend to agree that software is sometimes adjusted but:
My VideoStudio 7 SE Basic worked (it was a unlead CD that came with it not a Digitus CD). Now my Cpral VideoStudio is an upgrade version which required so it said in the cover.

"This Ulead VideoStudio 11.5 Plus Upgrade version will install if you have,

Ulead VideoStudio 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, or 10 Plus,

Ulead MovieWizard 1 or 2

Ulead Toolbox 2

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I think you missed my point. Yes, the version of VS 7 SE Basic qualified you for an upgrade from Corel. But that is the general upgrade. The point I was trying to make is that your VS7 SE Basic was probably tweaked, not by Corel, but by the makers of your capture device. They don't share their secrets with Corel, so more recent versions from Ulead/Corel do not contain those tweaks either and so will not work with the device... :cry:
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After a format

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I have re-formatted my hard drive and installed Videostudio 7 SE (IT IS A GENUINE UNLEAD VIDEOSTUDIO & SE Basic C.D.). All the drivers for the capture were provided by Microsoft and I updated them after after installing VideoStudio 11.5.

I have the following error message:-

Capture Module Initial Failed.

Open Driver Failed.

Cannot create the video capture.

I am about to try it this time using the S-Video input of my ATI card which also has the lastest ATI drivers (20 June). If it does not work then I have to asume that it is the prorgam is NOT compatable with Windows Vista 64-bit unless someone has got it to work and can explain what they did (using official drivers and unmodified software).

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Update 14 July 08

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Since yesterday I have downloaded the latest drivers for my capture device Digitus DA-VC211A from Microsoft and the driver provider listed was:-

Driver Provider = eMPIA Technology
Driver Date = 4/3/2008
Driver Version = 5.8.403.0
Digital Signer = Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatability Publisher

Name of device = USB 2800 Device

Yes it is displayed in the Control Manager page and it is the latest driver, is it is working so it says.

This was downloaded from the Vista 64 site.

Yes it works in Videostudio 7 SE Basic in Vista 64.

NO it does not work in Videostudio 11.5 Plus in Vista 64.

I think we are now looking at a software problem not a hardware problem

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Once again, you have seemed to missed Ken's point. When software comes with a hardware device, it is best to use that particular software with that hardware, as it has been specifically tweaked to work with it.

Capture with the v7SE, then import the clips and edit with v11. :wink:
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Post by Ken Berry »

Black Lab has made my point again. To repeat, in a bit more detail, yes Ulead/Corel made the original version of VS7 SE. But then the manufacturer of your capture device buys the licence of X copies of VS 7 SE from Ulead/Corel. And then they tweak those copies. But they don't tell Ulead/Corel what they have done. So while Ulead/Corel made the original version, they had no control over what the hardware manufacturer did to the product, and they can't copy it into later versions of Video Studio. That is why the current version of Video Studio won't work with the hardware.

Moreover, if by some miracle you have got VS 7 SE to work on a Vista computer, even if only for capture, then that is wonderful. The only versions of VS which are supposed to work with Vista are VS10 with a special patch, and VS11/11+/11.5+...

So if you can capture with VS7 SE, then continue using that. It should capture standard mpeg-2, and then you open that in VS11.5+ for editing...
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The driver is supplied by Microsoft not by Digitus. I have already loaded Windows Media Encoder 9 and Indeo which were the drivers for ther earlier version (Videostudio 7) to see if that would help.

I check the files on both CD'd (7 SE and 11.5 Plus) the 11.5 Plus has more files but it also has all the files that were on version 7 they are just bigger).

That still does not help; the program knows it is connected to the device in fact it shows the name of the capture device (USB 2800).

So I have the lastest drivers for the Digitus DA-VC211A from Microsoft that are signed. Unsigned drivers in Vista 64 willl not install as you will know.

Is there away of sending you a file so you can see what I have?

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In fact, as far as I can see, the driver is not provided by Microsoft, but by eMPIA Technology and digitally signed by Microsoft as being compliant with Vista. The two are not the same. And it still does not address the probability that the version of VS 7 SE that you received with the Digitus device was tweaked to work with it. Having a Microsoft-signed driver update for the device does not guarantee that later, untweaked versions of VS can work with it.

Comparing files and file names between VS 7 and 11.5 is also fairly pointless. It something is tweaked, it is in the code within the files, not a specific new file, which will have been changed. And that code in VS 7 SE will be directing that version of VS to react in a certain way when it sees a particular driver (including the updated driver which would conform to the original code pattern). But the regular, and more recent, commercial versions of Video Studio will not have the code to tell them to look for that particular driver...

And I doubt that sending me a video captured with VS 7 SE is going to tell me anything. As I said above, it is likely to be a standard DVD-compatible mpeg-2 or perhaps a lower quality mpeg-1. But it will conform to international standards and will be editable in any video editing software package, including VS11.5+.

But that is still not to say that VS11.5+ can capture from that specific piece of hardware... That unfortunately is a basic reality with many USB analogue capture devices. The Pinnacle range of devices, for instance, will very definitely only work with Pinnacle software for capturing, though once captured, the video can be edited in any other software. Ditto with AdsTech devices. AdsTech provides an excellent capture program (CapWiz). However, they too a few years back used to distribute an SE version of Video Studio which they had tweaked to work with their devices. And later versions of VS from Ulead simply would not work with the device.

So to repeat, if you can still capture from the device using VS7 SE, even remarkably in Vista, count yourself lucky, and edit the captured files in VS11.5+. But beyond that, I really have nothing more I can usefully add at this point. :cry: :roll:
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