Upgrading from VS10 to VS11+

Joseph Clark · Post by **Joseph Clark** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:53 am

Here's a message I just sent to Corel:

Your web site offers to allow me to upgrade from VideoStudio 10 to VS11 for $59.99, here:

http://www.ulead.com/store/vs/upgrade.htm

When I try to take advantage of your offer, I am sent to this page:

http://store.corel.com/webapp/wcs/store ... &langId=-1

Here I am given the opportunity to buy your product for $109.97, the regular price for buying it outright.

Finding the upgrade page was difficult, only to discover that it doesn't offer me the chance to do it. Please tell me if I'm missing something.

Joe Clark

Can anyone give me a direct link to a page that will allow me to buy the upgrade from VS10 to VS11?

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:02 am

Welcome to the forums,

I'm sorry to advise you that Corel stopped offering the upgrade price about 2 months ago. You may need to contact them by phone to see if they will honor the upgrade price.

Joseph Clark · Post by **Joseph Clark** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:13 am

vidoman wrote:Welcome to the forums,

I'm sorry to advise you that Corel stopped offering the upgrade price about 2 months ago. You may need to contact them by phone to see if they will honor the upgrade price.

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Sorry to hear about the upgrade having expired. They might think about removing the offer from their site, to eliminate confusion.

I've been a user of MovieFactory for quite some time and have a thread on creating HD DVDs on regular DVD recordables over on AVS. I've only used the full VideoStudio 10 program intermittently. Now, with a new AVCHD camcorder, I need to find a program that will make editing and burning footage to DVD and Blu-ray recordables easy. Sounds like VS11+ will handle that pretty well, but I've just started researching all the options.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:13 am

I too don't understand why they have apparently dropped the upgrade -- or even if they realise they apparently have!!

However, you should certainly be able to use your computer for editing AVCHD with VS11.5+ (which is the version you need, not just VS11+). Thanks, by the way, for already supplying your system specifications.

Just one note of caution, though: if you have the Panasonic S9 AVCHD camera, you might want to do a search since several S9 owners have reported that S9 footage causes VS11.5+ to crash. One of them sent me a data DVD containing S9 footage, and my Quad did the same thing -- yet can handle AVCHD from other cameras, or made here at home, with no trouble. Then again, no one with an S9 has yet reported finding a stable editing program for their footage apart from the software which actually comes with the camera.

But apart from the S9, other cameras should work OK with VS11.5+.

Joseph Clark · Post by **Joseph Clark** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:23 am

I have a Canon HF10. I've already run into an issue by simply transferring the footage directly from the SDHC card to my system. I'm hoping VS11.5+ will solve most of my workflow issues on simpler projects. I'll also have to figure out how to get my Cineform/Adobe Premiere projects back to MPEG4 without too many hours of re-encoding. I'm just starting, so I'll be spending a lot of time on these forums until I get the workflow as smooth as it was with HDV.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:52 am

If the Adobe projects you are talking about started life as HDV, and were processed out using the Adobe Media Encoder module to separate video and audio files, then VS11.5+ can certainly output them to AVCHD, though it takes my Quad in the order of 2.5 times real time to do so (i.e. one hour of video takes 2.5 hours roughly to encode to AVCHD.)

One problem, though, is that the VS11.5+ default if you use Share > Create Video File > AVCHD uses a VBR of max. 15000 kbps which in my opinion is too low. The trouble is that it is difficult to create your own AVCHD template which uses a higher bitrate though it can be done. In fact, I do it by creating an AVCHD hybrid disc on a standard DVD (Share > Create Disc > AVCHD). I then insert my project file (containing HDV footage or the Adobe separate HD video and audio files) into the burning module. And then, in the second icon, adjust the AVCHD burn properties to have a higher bitrate (I use CBR 16800 because a number of AVCHD cameras, including I think, your HF10, uses that. But of course you could also set it to VBR max 18000 kbps.) The AVCHD files are then available in the STREAM folder of the DVD.

Joseph Clark · Post by **Joseph Clark** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:29 am

Thanks, Ken. That's very helpful. Once I'm sure about the workflow, I'm going to be upgrading from Cineform's Aspect HD to Prospect HD, so that I can work with native 1920x1080 HD files in Premiere Pro. According to the Cineform web site, I can convert from AVCHD to their intermediate for realtime Premiere editing. I'm used to fairly long encode times once I'm finished with a Cineform project, but I hope to cut that down by upgrading from my dual core to a quadcore later this summer.

Meanwhile, some of the stuff I'm doing this summer is really simple, involving very little serious editing. I'm hoping VS11 will allow me to get some of those things out very quickly.