HDV Split By Scene during Capture (Update)

jmone · Post by **jmone** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:20 am

The following is the response from Tech Support (about the same as the answer 6 months ago):

Q: - Do you know if (and when) VS11+ will support Split by Scene (using the timestamp) during HDV Capture - eg like DV?

A: - Thank you for your inquiry. Kindly be informed that there is no information yet on the release date of a Service Pack for VideoStudio 11 that will offer support to this issue. Thank you for your patience regarding this matter.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:42 pm

The simple answer is: sorry, don't expect a patch to VS11. They are working to release VS12, and it will interesting to see whether it is even included there.

I use HDVSplit which does the job quite nicely, and is free...

Then I open the captured split files and edit in VS11.5+.

jmone · Post by **jmone** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:28 pm

Hi Ken - Thanks - That was also my reading of it!

I know that HDVSplit is an option but I do like the PS files from VS11 capture over native TS from HDVSplit - but really - how hard can it be to keep a feature they have always supported....

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:08 pm

Split by scene in successive versions of VS has only ever worked during capture in the DV format. It has, as far as I am aware, only ever worked *after* capture with DV and standard definition mpg-2. I agree, though, that I would not have thought it too hard to extend the latter to high def mpeg-2.

For what it is worth, I don't mind the TS aspect of HDVSplit as I in any case have to produce a final TS version of my edited HDV for sending back to the camera!

jmone · Post by **jmone** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:29 pm

As I keep all my editied footage on a HTPC my preference is for PS....however I'll have a look at my workflow again as I'm going to need to do a heap shortly (I'm years behind!)
Thanks
Nathan

jmone · Post by **jmone** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:05 am

Can anyone confirm if X2 (or any patch to V11) supports Split By Sceen (during capture) on HDV?
Thanks
Nathan

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:24 am

No patch was issued for that in VS11, and X2 will not split HDV by scene either... Still a matter of using HDVSplit...

jmone · Post by **jmone** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:42 pm

If that is the case is there anyway of do a batch TS to PS conversion (without transcoding) of the files created by HDVSplit?

Gisela Richter · Post by **Gisela Richter** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:51 pm

jmone wrote:If that is the case is there anyway of do a batch TS to PS conversion (without transcoding) of the files created by HDVSplit?

Video Studio will split the scenes AFTER HDV capture without any trouble, I don't quite understand why you are not satisfied with this.

jmone · Post by **jmone** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:33 am

Split by Scene during capture uses the changes in the Time / Date stamp to create a bunch of individual files that are then easy to add / remove etc.

Split by Scene after capture tries to determin changes in the "scene" and for me does a poor job. It also uses mark in / mark out not seperate files for each "scene". I'm sure it works for many but I'm used to the original way.

babyleon · Post by **babyleon** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:40 pm

Perhaps it is my computer equipment, but for me, splitting after capture (by subject change) also takes a LOT longer, more than a minute for each minute of captured video.

lespurgeon · Post by **lespurgeon** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:51 am

I use HDVSplit to capture, then import the clips to VS 11+

Ormond Williams · Post by **Ormond Williams** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:41 am

I am new to HDV, but after taking Ken's advice on using HDVSplit, I'm very happy to continue using it! It works perfectly!

cgould · Post by **cgould** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:11 pm

HDVSplit to M2T files, then import/edit those in VideoStudio, seems the best solution so far; I think only Vegas properly supports direct HDV scene-detection/splitting during capture.

However, VideoStudio is a bit slow working with M2T (hdv "transport stream" MPG2), both importing to the timeline/library, and also smart-rendering out to regular "program stream" MPEG2... VS X2 seems noticeably faster on this, especially if you add direct to the timeline rather than using the library;
but, smart-renders seem to take real-time (eg 10mins for 10min video), only 25% CPU, low disk usage. So there is some unwrapping/processing that takes place.

It's still much better I think than having a single large MPEG2 file and having VS do image-content-based scene detection.

For one thing, HDVSplit creates files named per the datestamp, so it's very easy to find exactly the file/clip you are thinking about, especially over multi-day/hour shoots.
It's also easy to re-capture any files again, exactly to the frame, without worrying about timecode etc.

I really wish VS X2 would support this directly, and faster...