According to your system button you haven't got a computer!!Arnie wrote:As my new computer is only available with Vista (no drivers for XP available), I had to jump... .....
It had to happen...
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Re: It had to happen...
I, for one, am very interested in learning about other alternatives, seeing that all of us will likely have to migrate to something else at some point in the future based on the recent announcement from Corel.
I've purchased a Mac to explore the FC series of software, but
It's always interesting (and valuable) to hear about other software from the perspective of people who have used MSP extensively. That perspective is very important to me in trying to make a choice on which way to go.
Personally, I've grown to really like the MSP workflow and plan to keep it for the foreseeable future, but also need to consider alternatives for practical reasons. If there was going to be further development, I'd have a different opinion, but that's the reality we're all faced with.
If this isn't the place to discuss this, can someone suggest an alternative location? In my opinion, this is the proper spot at this point in time. Thas wasn't the case while MSP was still an actively developed product, but by forcing this discussion from this perspective (ie us) out of here, there's a dis-service being done to all MSP users who are now forced to consider alternatives...
It's not like this is bad for Corel's business... They've already announced their future plans for this product.
Suggestions or comments?
Regards, Al
I've purchased a Mac to explore the FC series of software, but
It's always interesting (and valuable) to hear about other software from the perspective of people who have used MSP extensively. That perspective is very important to me in trying to make a choice on which way to go.
Personally, I've grown to really like the MSP workflow and plan to keep it for the foreseeable future, but also need to consider alternatives for practical reasons. If there was going to be further development, I'd have a different opinion, but that's the reality we're all faced with.
If this isn't the place to discuss this, can someone suggest an alternative location? In my opinion, this is the proper spot at this point in time. Thas wasn't the case while MSP was still an actively developed product, but by forcing this discussion from this perspective (ie us) out of here, there's a dis-service being done to all MSP users who are now forced to consider alternatives...
It's not like this is bad for Corel's business... They've already announced their future plans for this product.
Suggestions or comments?
Regards, Al
Steve,
Now is that really called for? I did not fill in my system specs and never got that kind of treatment. I use a variety of different computers for jobs whether it being in the field, rending workstations or my devoted editing system. All have Ulead products loaded on them and are used on a regular basis. So, I cannot narrow it down to just one, all are used in my workflow.
On a side note, this kind of sarcastic, censoring behavior, etc... is being exercized more by some of the moderators at this forum. I have witnessed and copied from the moderator/senior member forum, quite a lengthy thread that is a personal attack on an individual. Not very professional at all.
Call it what you want, it is what it is.
Now is that really called for? I did not fill in my system specs and never got that kind of treatment. I use a variety of different computers for jobs whether it being in the field, rending workstations or my devoted editing system. All have Ulead products loaded on them and are used on a regular basis. So, I cannot narrow it down to just one, all are used in my workflow.
On a side note, this kind of sarcastic, censoring behavior, etc... is being exercized more by some of the moderators at this forum. I have witnessed and copied from the moderator/senior member forum, quite a lengthy thread that is a personal attack on an individual. Not very professional at all.
Call it what you want, it is what it is.
Corel offer us the space for this forum and Corel imposes its rules, one of which is that it be used to discuss Corel's related products:asande wrote:I, for one, am very interested in learning about other alternatives, seeing that all of us will likely have to migrate to something else at some point in the future based on the recent announcement from Corel.
I've purchased a Mac to explore the FC series of software, but
It's always interesting (and valuable) to hear about other software from the perspective of people who have used MSP extensively. That perspective is very important to me in trying to make a choice on which way to go.
Personally, I've grown to really like the MSP workflow and plan to keep it for the foreseeable future, but also need to consider alternatives for practical reasons. If there was going to be further development, I'd have a different opinion, but that's the reality we're all faced with.
If this isn't the place to discuss this, can someone suggest an alternative location? In my opinion, this is the proper spot at this point in time. Thas wasn't the case while MSP was still an actively developed product, but by forcing this discussion from this perspective (ie us) out of here, there's a dis-service being done to all MSP users who are now forced to consider alternatives...
It's not like this is bad for Corel's business... They've already announced their future plans for this product.
Suggestions or comments?
Regards, Al
If you just mention a competitive product on some other forums, the post is deleted. Here we have been reasonably tolerant and there many mentions of such software, but the line must be drawn at discussing the detailed pros and cons of each. There are many non-sponsored video forums on the Internet where this can be done. After all, if you go to a Shell filling station for a tankful of fuel, would you not be surprised to see a banner stating "Exxon/Mobil fuel gives you a better consumption"? I'm sure Mr Shell would soon tear it down!All discussion in this forum should be related to InterVideo and Ulead products only (except for General Discussion section).
As for it not affecting Corel, this is not true. Corel is offering MSP8 users a free VS11.5+. Why? Because this will allow you into the upgrade path to a new VS software, which we have been told is in the pipeline. Until we know what this will contain, it would not be in Corel's interests to see other NLEs promoted on this board. And please don't ask me what it will contain or when it will be released, because I know no more than you!
So, the unwritten rule is that mentioning other, non-Corel, NLEs is tolerated, discussing their details is not.
I hope this is now clear.
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Wrong.rwernyei wrote:Steve,
Now is that really called for? I did not fill in my system specs and never got that kind of treatment. I use a variety of different computers for jobs whether it being in the field, rending workstations or my devoted editing system. All have Ulead products loaded on them and are used on a regular basis. So, I cannot narrow it down to just one, all are used in my workflow.
On a side note, this kind of sarcastic, censoring behavior, etc... is being exercized more by some of the moderators at this forum. I have witnessed and copied from the moderator/senior member forum, quite a lengthy thread that is a personal attack on an individual. Not very professional at all.
Call it what you want, it is what it is.
The reason I checked his system button was so that I could try and find some XP Drivers for him, however he hasn't bothered following the requests made in this link
Please Read This Before Creating Posts.
sjj1805 wrote:........
If you have not already done so, click onProfile in the forum header and fill in the fields titled:
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Steve,
Wrong that both he and I have not filled in the system profile. I gave my reason. Too many computers. I'd have to make several accounts because I use them all.
Or...
Wrong was the sarcastic tone in your remark. He said he had a computer with Vista OS installed but I don't get his reasoning for wanting XP drivers if he doesn't have XP installed.
Wrong that both he and I have not filled in the system profile. I gave my reason. Too many computers. I'd have to make several accounts because I use them all.
Or...
Wrong was the sarcastic tone in your remark. He said he had a computer with Vista OS installed but I don't get his reasoning for wanting XP drivers if he doesn't have XP installed.
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If you read his post you will see that he stated "he had to jump because no XP drivers available for his new machine" so this suggests that if he could have found XP drivers he would have probably created a dual boot system (or simply ditched Vista). Because he (appears) to be stuck with Vista he was asking what others were doing.
I have managed to get MSP to work on Vista and have published on the forum how to do so.
This Is How To Install MSP 7 or 8 on Microsoft Vista
This is however only a work round and although you will get a working version there will be a few niggling issues but at least it still lets you use it.
The better option is to create a dual boot system providing you can get the necessary XP Drivers. I have also provided a link on the forum explaining how to create a dual boot XP / Vista System
Creating a Dual Boot Vista/XP System
The only practical further assistance that I can give this user is to check the availability of XP Drivers - OK he has no doubt searched himself but there is an old saying "two heads are better than one" and someone else looking might have turned something up.
At the very top of the Web Board is a a group of forums "Important Announcement" below which is a forum Please Read This Before Posting & FAQ's
To Help us to help you, before creating a post please read these guidelines and Frequently Asked Questions.
The very first post that you find is Please Read This Before Creating Posts. in which you will find that ALL MEMBERS are asked to complete their system specifications.
OK YOU have several computers - in fact so do I - currently 5.
I do not expect you to list (or create accounts) for each and every computer, but I would expect that details of the one mainly used for the product in question has been completed.
Click my system button and you will see I have listed both of the computers I mainly use. This is a help forum - we can only offer help when we are provided with sufficient information to provide some.
I have managed to get MSP to work on Vista and have published on the forum how to do so.
This Is How To Install MSP 7 or 8 on Microsoft Vista
This is however only a work round and although you will get a working version there will be a few niggling issues but at least it still lets you use it.
The better option is to create a dual boot system providing you can get the necessary XP Drivers. I have also provided a link on the forum explaining how to create a dual boot XP / Vista System
Creating a Dual Boot Vista/XP System
The only practical further assistance that I can give this user is to check the availability of XP Drivers - OK he has no doubt searched himself but there is an old saying "two heads are better than one" and someone else looking might have turned something up.
At the very top of the Web Board is a a group of forums "Important Announcement" below which is a forum Please Read This Before Posting & FAQ's
To Help us to help you, before creating a post please read these guidelines and Frequently Asked Questions.
The very first post that you find is Please Read This Before Creating Posts. in which you will find that ALL MEMBERS are asked to complete their system specifications.
OK YOU have several computers - in fact so do I - currently 5.
I do not expect you to list (or create accounts) for each and every computer, but I would expect that details of the one mainly used for the product in question has been completed.
Click my system button and you will see I have listed both of the computers I mainly use. This is a help forum - we can only offer help when we are provided with sufficient information to provide some.
Hi SJJ,
I have mended my erroneous ways and entered my profile. (No offence meant, no offence taken
The new-ish Vista machine I refer to is a laptop (medium-to-high-end). I use the machine for numerous other things, so it was impractical to do the "adapt for MSP" trick. I have searched ASUS' websites, and XP is plainly not supported on it (it is possible that some older drivers might work under XP, but I haven't tried it. Besides, I would need to buy (yet) another XP license, which I was not too happy to do!)
BTW, I have bought DVDMF6+, which I use on the vista machine, DVDMF has grown to be a very good program. I also have a 5 year old desktop running XP, P4-3.0, which I use for MSP, and will keep it for as long as it keeps running.
Anyway, the reason for the post was to gauge what others are feeling about the way ahead for us video-editing crowd. Thanks to all for your responses and ideas.
I have mended my erroneous ways and entered my profile. (No offence meant, no offence taken
The new-ish Vista machine I refer to is a laptop (medium-to-high-end). I use the machine for numerous other things, so it was impractical to do the "adapt for MSP" trick. I have searched ASUS' websites, and XP is plainly not supported on it (it is possible that some older drivers might work under XP, but I haven't tried it. Besides, I would need to buy (yet) another XP license, which I was not too happy to do!)
BTW, I have bought DVDMF6+, which I use on the vista machine, DVDMF has grown to be a very good program. I also have a 5 year old desktop running XP, P4-3.0, which I use for MSP, and will keep it for as long as it keeps running.
Anyway, the reason for the post was to gauge what others are feeling about the way ahead for us video-editing crowd. Thanks to all for your responses and ideas.
Cheers,
Arnie.
"Strive for excellence, not perfection. Perfection take too long." - Mike Close, UK
Arnie.
"Strive for excellence, not perfection. Perfection take too long." - Mike Close, UK
I think the "way ahead" will be clearer in a couple of months or so. I therefore advise a little patience, rather than barging ahead regardless.
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Yes well... that's a hint... isn't itDevil wrote:I think the "way ahead" will be clearer in a couple of months or so. I therefore advise a little patience, rather than barging ahead regardless.
I wondered why Ulead was giving us a free version of VS. It's to keep us from wondering too far away... right? Nah.... don't answer that.
I wonder what they're cooking up......
Don't we all!neonbob wrote: I wonder what they're cooking up......
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