MSP8 vs Sony Vega or Movie edit pro12

[DAAdood]

Please talk to me
3 things:
What is best to work with MSP8 or Sony Vega or movie edit pro12 by Magix

The reason I ask is because I am trying to find the easiest way to excport the video of HDV already edit render as mpg2t, but I have not being succeed in geting into the camera. I have a Sony FX7 HD. The recording I would like to start producing on HD.

I do know how to do it in DV I have no problem with that the problem is to able to export or is it print to tape?

Please someon advise me on how to export the edited video back to the camera in HD.

Thank you
Luis

[neonbob]

Your best bet would probably be Vegas. MSP8 won't import M2T and MEP12 is pretty buggy.

[DAAdood]

Thankyou for replying promptly

The problem is that I already tried to do it with Vegas and it did not work
Then why is it that MSP8 says all over that will EXPORT video to the camera and is not doin it .

The same happens with Sony. Is it something I may be doing something wrong. I know I am using the right cable which is the iLink cable= to IEEP= to Firewire.
Pleae advise.

Thank you
LUis

[neonbob]

Not sure what your issue is (could be a lot of things.... including a wrong setting on the cam), but I know people are writing back to the FX7 with Vegas (Pro) so you have a setting wrong somewhere. Your not using the trial version of Vegas are you? (The trial version is missing a few MPG codecs)

[sjj1805]

First thing you need to ascertain is if the camcorder is capable of importing video (as opposed to recording video). Here in the U.K. it is very rare to find a camcorder that will allow you to do so because of the Inland Revenue.
The Tax Rules are such that a camcorder that can import video attracts a higher rate of duty than a camcorder that does not, as a result manufacturers have disabled that function on UK camcorders.

[DAAdood]

in fact I am that really sucks then what is good to trial out a software if is'nt any good to trial for. Beside MSP8 is alot simpler to cut clips and add transition. I dont know if is because i would haved to get use to the SONY way or what but I find Sony Vegas i quite complicate to do anything with it.

Then who could tell me if there is such thing able to record HD video edited into DVD 4 or DL 8 gb disc of about 1 hour at least of video.
Who can recommend me a withing price range of a Blue Ray dis burner for PC.

Thank you again for replying you guys are good although is not resoving the problem yet.

Thak you again.
LUis

[neonbob]

Thank you again for replying you guys are good although is not resoving the problem yet.

Your problem has been resolved. It's a matter of spending the money for the program and no one but you can help with that.

The reason you can not do mpeg work with Vegas is because it is a popular program and many people try to hack into it and use it for free. Sony takes care of that by not including the mpeg and AC3 encoders in the trial packages.

I used to use MSP8 (but have moved on to Vegas because MSP8 is being discontinued) and yes, Vegas is quite a bit more complicated than MSP8 but then you can do a lot more with it. There is a good book out on Vegas called Vegas Pro 8 Editing Workshop (by Douglas Spotted Eagle) which is quite well written and worth the read. You can find it on Amazon.com

Sorry, I am a bit confused here. In your first post you talk about recording back to tape, but in your last post you talk about blu ray burning. What are you interested in doing?

Ulead Movie Factory 6 will burn Blu Ray disks.

[DAAdood]

let me put it this way MSP8 alouds me to copy into DVD as long if it fit into the DVD. That is why I asked about the blue ray disc burner. But in the meantime I would like it to put my edited video back in tape as a backup so later I can always burner later in to Bue Disc in HD that is the whole idea behind.

But I will give it a try about that book that you are suggesting. I know for a fact that the Sony Pro 8 is very expensive. Does it works with Vista?
I was looking more into the platinum version what is the difference do you know?

Thank you
Luis

[neonbob]

Vegas Platinum is to Vegas Pro like Video Studio is to MSP8. In other words it works but only covers the basics.

You can get Vegas Pro8 at B&H photo for cheap but note that this is ONLY Sony Vegas and does not include DVDarchitect (the dvd burning program) or the AC3 (dolby digital 5.1) sound encoder. This will however allow you access to the upgrade price on the next FUL Vegas version (Vegas 9 when it comes out)

Yes it works on Vista.

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[DAAdood]

Hello again neonbob
I do appreciate your input about this software. As we know that MSP8 is a lost case. But tell me please does Sony Vegas have a compositor like MSP8? What I like most of MSP8 is the fact that alouds you to create a composite with video and photos. Does Sony Vegas pro 8 does it?

Although I am practicing with the platinum to see what it does there is no easy task to cut the video and copy and paste type of thing that you can do with MSP8.

[Devil]

Vegas does not have a compositor per se, but you can composite things in a different way by opening multiple instances (unlike MSP) and interactively adding sub-projects to a main project. However, MSP is much more versatile with its sub-timelines, IMHO.

[DAAdood]

Thank you

I been watching some tutorial about Sony pro 8 it is very interesting. In some way there things that are much easier with less step to take for instance fade in and fade out. Another thing that Sony does not have is the instant music creator instead it needs to be purchase seperatly that is another 150 dollars or so.
Well I guees I can always create a composite in MSP8 and created video in AVI and then insert it into Sony project.

Thank you again you been very helpful.

[neonbob]

Vegas does not have a compositor per se,

I'm not sure where you got this from but it can be done quite easily in Vegas. Not just composting but masking as well. Pick up Spot's book and give it a read.

[DAAdood]

Hi again

Thank you guys.
I can tell you this much, I been using the trial version of Sony vegas Platinum and I managed to do the samething that I have done with MSP8, In fact i managed to print the video back to tape in HDV back to my camera. Something that you people dont talk about is creating 3d animated title made in 3dFX an old program and I managed to superimpose to the existing video in HD. The quality for what it is of the Title and logo is pretty descent. Can't ask for more for an old program you know . But anyway I manage to do more that what I had able to do with MSP8 which able to print it to tape.
I think I would go for the platinum for now do certains thing in MSP8 like the instant music creator which Sony vegas does not have built in and it is expensive to use one or two music . MSP8 already have so I will see that i may open and create it in wav format sound, first to the track and save it as wav and then use it in Sony Vegas I have not done that yet but I am planing it to do it that way.

Thank you
Luis

[neonbob]

Hi again

Thank you guys.
I can tell you this much, I been using the trial version of Sony vegas Platinum and I managed to do the samething that I have done with MSP8, In fact i managed to print the video back to tape in HDV back to my camera.

I'm not sure about Vegas Platinum, but Vegas Pro goes much deeper than MSP8 can. The pro titler that has been added in version 8 is unbeatable by even the more expensive title systems. And when use in conjunction with the 3D track motions you can make some pretty great 3D titles.

I was a MSP8 user for quite a few years and I was pretty much forced to another product because of MSP discontinuation. But I will say that in the end, I'm a happier person for it. At any rate, glad you found what you were looking for.