Well the quality is just not there.
Iam used to burning HD-DVD movies on double layer dvds and I get 40 minutes on them.
I burned one of the same movies using Ulead in avchd. The whole movie fit on a single layer dvd and I still had room to spare. I used the factory defaults in Ulead.
Is there some thing I can do to up the quality?
I usuall burn my hd-dvds about 2600 kbps, but the max I can up the avchd is 1800 kbps.
In the change MPEG Settings box when I click that is has HD1440, for the frame size. Is this 1440 1080i or just 1440 1080? I f I go to customize I get the option for 1920 1080 should I be using that?
thanks in advance for any input
Wrote my first AVCHD movie, not happy...
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Welcome to to the forums...
And as I just said to someone else, welcome to the wonderful world of AVCHD (NOT)!!!
You might want to take a look at parts of a recent thread (today in fact) which you can find at http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 576#158576 There you will see that I too was not happy burning an AVCHD hybrid disc using the VS11.5 default settings.
The problem(s) with changing those settings, you have already found. In the first place, Customise is as far as I can see, useless. Yes you can change the frame size setting to 1920 x 1080, but there is no way I have found (as yet??) to change the encoder which is used in those settings, and that is not AVCHD/H.264 but an mpeg-2 codec which will give you HDV format and not AVCHD. Ditto with trying to use Make Movie Manager to set up a permanent AVCHD template with custom settings. (For me, that's not a biggie since you will see from the above thread that I can also play my edited HDVs back using an external memory stick or hard drive on my PS3.)
All the frame format settings in VS, again as far as I am aware, are i for interlaced settings, by the way.
And the only way I have found of changing properties for the final AVCHD is by jumping straight from the Editor to the burning module without first rendering my project into AVCHD format. I select Share > Create Disc > AVCHD. That way, the project file is inserted into the burning module instead of real video files. And then, in the second of the three icons in the bottom left of the burning screen, you can change the properties of the AVCHD disc. You can uncheck the Do Not Convert Compliant Mpeg Files box if you like, though in practice I leave it checked because it activates the X-Disc box below it, and I think that may be important for hybrid discs such as these.
As I said in the above thread, I use a CBR of 16800 kbps as that is used in most AVCHD cameras, although I think one or two of the higher quality ones now use 18,000 kbps (and the international AVCHD standard was last year raised to a maximum of 25,000 kbps). I think VS is still set to the old maximum of 18000 kbps.
Incidentally, I notice you say you used a bitrate of only 2600 kbps for your HD-DVD discs. I assume that was a mis-type for 26000 kbps (I use a max bitrate of 30000 kbps VBR for my HDV which in practice averages out to around 25000 kbps so it is much the same thing). But there is no need for such a high bitrate with AVCHD. Indeed, that is the very point of the format -- to give great quality using a lower bitrate and thus file size. Pity that it is just such a hassle to deal with at the moment.

You might want to take a look at parts of a recent thread (today in fact) which you can find at http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 576#158576 There you will see that I too was not happy burning an AVCHD hybrid disc using the VS11.5 default settings.
The problem(s) with changing those settings, you have already found. In the first place, Customise is as far as I can see, useless. Yes you can change the frame size setting to 1920 x 1080, but there is no way I have found (as yet??) to change the encoder which is used in those settings, and that is not AVCHD/H.264 but an mpeg-2 codec which will give you HDV format and not AVCHD. Ditto with trying to use Make Movie Manager to set up a permanent AVCHD template with custom settings. (For me, that's not a biggie since you will see from the above thread that I can also play my edited HDVs back using an external memory stick or hard drive on my PS3.)
All the frame format settings in VS, again as far as I am aware, are i for interlaced settings, by the way.
And the only way I have found of changing properties for the final AVCHD is by jumping straight from the Editor to the burning module without first rendering my project into AVCHD format. I select Share > Create Disc > AVCHD. That way, the project file is inserted into the burning module instead of real video files. And then, in the second of the three icons in the bottom left of the burning screen, you can change the properties of the AVCHD disc. You can uncheck the Do Not Convert Compliant Mpeg Files box if you like, though in practice I leave it checked because it activates the X-Disc box below it, and I think that may be important for hybrid discs such as these.
As I said in the above thread, I use a CBR of 16800 kbps as that is used in most AVCHD cameras, although I think one or two of the higher quality ones now use 18,000 kbps (and the international AVCHD standard was last year raised to a maximum of 25,000 kbps). I think VS is still set to the old maximum of 18000 kbps.
Incidentally, I notice you say you used a bitrate of only 2600 kbps for your HD-DVD discs. I assume that was a mis-type for 26000 kbps (I use a max bitrate of 30000 kbps VBR for my HDV which in practice averages out to around 25000 kbps so it is much the same thing). But there is no need for such a high bitrate with AVCHD. Indeed, that is the very point of the format -- to give great quality using a lower bitrate and thus file size. Pity that it is just such a hassle to deal with at the moment.
Ken Berry
