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Error 1116

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I have twice spent 2+ days watching 9.0 SE create a DVD & DVD image. The first time it took 60+ hours before it crashed. Now it is down to 45+ hours before I got the 1116 message. I can find no "backup", usable working copy. I would have thought creating an image would be completed first, so I would NOT have to restart the whole process -- including chaptering.
Any help?
[I have the trial version of 11, but it only allows auto-chaptering, which is WAY too many start points; 9.0 allowed me to break by day, by hand. I have 6+Gb AVI of 2 weeks in India, which I am having trouble putting on 2 DVDs]
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Those times are way, way, way out of the ballpark even for an under-resourced computer. You have only given partial computer details, but on the face of it, I would say that a normal burning time -- depending on the workflow you followed -- should take no more than about 30 minutes for a full single layer DVD burned at 4x speed.
I would have thought creating an image would be completed first, so I would NOT have to restart the whole process
But your above comment I think, says it all, even though you give absolutely no detail about your workflow. First, a disk image will only be created if you asked for it on the last page of the burning module at the same time as you asked the program to burn a DVD. If not, then any files created are temporary, and will be removed (normally) when the burning process ends or is aborted. Those temp files are created in the folder designated as the Working Folder in Preferences in the first icon in the burning module bottom left of screen.

VS is admittedly clunky when it comes to saving settings etc in the burning module. The only sure way of saving everything is to build your menus etc, and get to the last page of the burning module. Then you click the Close button *before* getting to the Burn button. This will close the burning module. VS will say it is saving something, but none of us have every worked out what is saved or where. Once the burning module has closed, you then either go to File > Save, to save your existing project, or File > Save As, to save a new Project file. This will save everything up to and including what you have done in the burning module. You can close VS if you like, or not. But when you next open the program and select the saved Project, then open the burning module, everything should be there as you left it. You can then click Next to get you through to the final page and select Burn.

My own preference at this stage in fact is to 'burn' a DVD Folder instead of an actual disc. That way I can play that folder (in effect the full structure of an actual DVD) in a software DVD player like PowerDVD or WinDVD to make sure everything is OK. If so, I burn the folder using Nero, though other packages can also do it.

However, I think the central problem you are experiencing is your actual workflow. You don't tell us anything about the video used in your project, its properties, where it has come from or what editing you have done to it. However, I suspect that when you have finished editing, you have jumped directly into the burning module. Some people do this all the time successfully, but a lot of people experience problems. So we have developed another possible workflow which seems to avoid problems -- and long burn times...

After editing, you first convert the project to DVD compatible mpeg-2: Share > Create Video File > DVD. You can accept the default settings normally, though that will again depend on what sort of video you are converting, and how much there is of it. But you can select Custom instead of DVD, and change the settings to those you wish -- as long as they are still within the international DVD standard.

Once you have your mpeg-2, save your project, then open a new one. Don't worry about a name for it -- the objective is just to clear the timeline.

Then you go to Share > Create Disc, insert your new mpeg-2 into the burning timeline, make your menu and burn. Also, make sure 'do not convert compliant mpeg files' is ticked in the middle of the three icons in the bottom left of the burning screen. You should not have to adjust any of the properties in the burn module.

And if you follow this workflow, then the burning time should reflect the estimate I made at the outset.

One other thing you might want to look at, though, relating to the burning time, is linked to menu construction. There is a problem for some people (including me) in the menu making part of the VS11/11.5 burning module. The usual indicator is an abnormally long time (and I mean hours) to reach only a few percent of the burning process. Sometimes, the process will actually hang the computer. So it is possible this could also be part of your problem.

The problem appears to be associated on some computers at least with the glossy little cosmetic addition to the menu which allows you to fade in the menu or fade it out, or both. It is found on the Edit tab on the Menu Template page of the burning module.

In the bottom left of that page are two icons labelled Menu In and Menu Out. The Menu In icon is disabled by default, but the Menu Out button will be displaying an animation. If you are getting abnormally long burning processes, disable Menu Out as well and try burning again.
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Error 1116 - II

Post by ama3 »

As far as flow goes, it is the same as I have done for the past 3-4 DVDs.
Connect videocam to DVD Xpress DV2 to USB on PC and start CapWiz; save as mpg. Open VS ... I have already done the 2nd DVD with a HUGE wait time, but it finished & works in DVD player on TV. This 1st one is the worst I have ever had.
I have started with both mpg & avi. The mpg files from CapWiz are 3-4Gb ea. and the current avi (from Pinnacle VideoSpin) is 3.8Gb. When I try to burn them, the Gb is ramped up to 10-13Gb ...

I thought the problem was in using an external drive, but in tweaking space here & there, putting everything on C-drive, it still either goes thru (rarely) as you say, in minutes, or hangs for hours. In fact, I am trying to create video file now (mpg) & it is taking forever. Oh, & I am still getting the [undocumented] 1116 error.
Done all the turning off stuff: no moving menus, don't re-translate mpg, etc, but even if it IS 13 Gb(???!!), it still should be able to "compress" it down -- even if the results aren't that great. (still 10 frames/sec ...) It seems to be taking only 50% resources, tho there is much more available ...
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Post by Ken Berry »

Can you right click on one of the mpeg-2 files within Video Studio and copy all its properties here, please. Then do the same with this .AVI files. I think there should be nothing wrong with the mpeg files as CapWiz normally does an excellent job of capturing them.

But I have to confess I have never heard of Video Spin before, so know nothing about the variety of .AVI it produces (there are over 800 varieties of video format which use the extension .avi). :oops: So I'd like to know more about this one -- and why it jumps from 3.8 GB to three times that size.
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