make it compatible with VISTA

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make it compatible with VISTA

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How about if Corel make an effort to create a patch or an upgrade to make the Media Studio Pro 8 be compatible with VISTA
Ever since visat came out Ulead at first had an intention of a patch when I finally dicided to buy the program all of the sudden the patch disappeared. I called Corel where I purchase the program and no one could answer my question where is the patch for compability to vista.
Are there any intentions to do that if not why bother pay so much for some program that is not going to be any good in the future with future OS like VISTA.

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Post by Ron P. »

Welcome to the forums,

I'm afraid that Corel has no intentions on any further development for MSP, this includes providing any more patches. It is one of several former Ulead programs that they are dropping. :(

I and some others have been able to install MSP8 on a Vista machine, running it under compatibility mode for XP. You also need to disable the Themes, and use Windows Classic Theme.

You could also setup a dual-boot system for Vista and XP.
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You can get MediaStudio Pro 7 & 8 to run on Vista if you follow the advice given in this link
This Is How To Install MSP 7 or 8 on Microsoft Vista

Although it works, the better option is to Create a dual boot Vista/XP System. You can of course only do so if you are able to locate the drivers for your computer in XP mode - especially sound and video drivers.
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As Ron says, using XP in a dual boot system is by far the most logical way of tackling the problem. In this way, you obtain the full functionality of MSP.
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Corel relly sucks then

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First of all thankyou for replying so promptly I appreciate your suggestions.
I really dont appreciate Corel doing that garbage to the users after paying so much for a program that doesn't even start in Vista.
if we talk about Ulead 11 plus that other garbage doesn't even have half of the feature that MSP8 have, I am refering to the compositor . So why border

it is too complicate it to try out a dual boot system and I still dont see the point of having a dual boot to have vista on the system and just for the MSP 8 garbage of program to see it working in Vista without any of the Vista Features anyway.
For what I understand trying to install MSP8 into vista you need to take all of the Vista feature looks , and for that is better to work with Xp then.

Besides Vista is not even compatible with most application that are out in the stores so why bother.
I dont mean in anyway any miss respect to any users that sudggest but I am upset to find out that Corel is doing this garbage to the user and fans of MSP8.
If any of you guys can tell me otherwise about Ulead Media Studio 11 plus, please reply I like to hear it.

Thank you so much
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I'm sorry but I cannot understand your rambling. It is not difficult to install a dual-boot system.

You should appreciate that MSP 8 was written long before Vista was even in beta version.

About 20% of the software that I use every day will not run properly in Vista. Whose fault is that? The authors of a dozen programs? Or the author of Vista? Microsoft is perfectly aware that Vista has many shortcomings, which is why they are preparing the new version of Windows much faster than was originally anticipated.

If you bought MSP to run under Vista, why did you not check which operating systems were compatible?

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Why Corel does what it does, is anyones guess. I'm sure that cost is somewhere in there.

VS11+ is slightly better than VS10+ in that it leans more towards the current High-Def/AVCHD/Blu-Ray video file formats. It also has the 6 overlay tracks, that you are at least able to cut the clips in, unlike VS10+.

You can not add transitions to clips in overlay tracks. VS is geared toward the novice, beginner to make it as simple as possible to get the video from the camcorder to a DVD.

Corel relased VS12 a few months ago in Japan. Some of us had a look at it, and were able to decipher from the Japanese language and layout, that it will have additional title tracks, and the ability to add transitions in the overlay tracks. It will also have what appears to be, Video Paint incorporated into it.

So simply put, Corel is very slowly adding a few things to the consumer program to make a little like a pro-sumer, however that is, a very little tid-bit like...;)
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Devil wrote:I'm sorry but I cannot understand your rambling. It is not difficult to install a dual-boot system....
It is if you have no XP or Win2K licence available.
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DAAdood wrote: For what I understand trying to install MSP8 into vista you need to take all of the Vista feature looks , and for that is better to work with Xp then.

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There's a lot more to an operating system than how it looks. I use XP in classic mode, but that doesn't mean it runs like win2000. When I feel like some visual candy I just play on my mac for a while.
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DAAdood wrote:.......
For what I understand trying to install MSP8 into vista you need to take all of the Vista feature looks , and for that is better to work with Xp then......
NO.

If you read my post This Is How To Install MSP 7 or 8 on Microsoft Vista you will see that one of the first things I suggest you do is create a new user account "Video Editor"

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Logging onto your normal user account you have the full bells and whistles of Vista.
Logging onto the Video Editor Account you have the streamlined version that enables MediaStudio to run.

Gorf wrote:It is if you have no XP or Win2K licence available.
Every silver lining has its cloud. The other cloud is the one I mentioned before, make sure you can get hold of the XP drivers otherwise you may get a working copy of XP but no sound and/or a poor display
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Devil wrote:...

About 20% of the software that I use every day will not run properly in Vista. Whose fault is that? The authors of a dozen programs? Or the author of Vista? Microsoft is perfectly aware that Vista has many shortcomings, which is why they are preparing the new version of Windows much faster than was originally anticipated.

...

I hope your assumptions are right regarding Windows 7. It makes me sick to realize that for a year, the almost only new feature that software developers offered was "Vista compatible".

Look at the small difference between VS10 and 11, which has been resolved somewhat with the release of 11.5. PI 12 and X3, not much.

And then, many other software like MSP needs to be dropped because implementing the new feature called "Vista compatible" need a major rework of the code that makes the business case a no brainer: return on investment is negative, drop. I guess the same thing applies to C3D.

All this to have a candy look...
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DLA wrote: All this to have a candy look...
Exactly, you have hit the nail on the head!
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DLA wrote:And then, many other software like MSP needs to be dropped because implementing the new feature called "Vista compatible" need a major rework of the code that makes the business case a no brainer: return on investment is negative, drop.
Has anyone considered the possibility that MSP was doomed anyway, and that Vista was just a catalyst?
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Gorf wrote:
DLA wrote: " Vista was just a catalyst?"
Pun INTEnded? 8)
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Post by DLA »

[quote="Gorf]
Has anyone considered the possibility that MSP was doomed anyway, and that Vista was just a catalyst?[/quote]

Call it a catalyst, the kick in the b**t needed or anything else, Vista is just a big failure.
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