AVCHD on DVD-r in Blu Ray player

hdspringer98 · Post by **hdspringer98** » Sun May 11, 2008 11:59 pm

Hi, so I burned a DVD-r disc of my project by chosing the AVCHD format. I don't have a blu-ray player but am shopping. I can't seem to find one that plays the disc. My question is, has anyone successfully burned avchd to a dvd-r disc and had it play on a blu-ray player, if so which one? Thank you.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:58 am

Play Station Pro 3... Gets very good reports generally, as well as by users on this Board, including for the type of disc you are talking about.

westlight · Post by **westlight** » Mon May 12, 2008 1:22 am

Not sure if this will help. Here's a post hat I put up and some of the replies, including a step by step process for burning/playing AVCHD burnt to a standard DVD for playback on a PS3. I'm burning a disk right now...I hope I am anyway. Here's the link.
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=30890

djmorgan · Post by **djmorgan** » Mon May 12, 2008 1:37 am

I have a Sony BDP-S500 and this weekend created a 1.7 Gb AVCHD to a DVD-r and it played fantastically!

Sony units offer compatibility with PS3 and their camcorders so AVCHD is supported by most if not all of their players

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Mon May 12, 2008 2:07 am

I use the PS3 for my playbacks (and MF6 for the burns). I haven't had a failure yet and I've done maybe 40 or 50 disks now.

westlight · Post by **westlight** » Mon May 12, 2008 2:33 am

neonbob

Have you been burning and playing AVCHD files to a standard DVD and playing them back on your PS3?

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:57 pm

Yes..... and no.

I have been burning avchd on dvd and playing it on the PS3 quite successfully, but my original files are not avchd. I have the Sony HC3, HC7, and Canon HV20.... all tape based mpeg2 cams. I capture edit as m2t in Vegas 8 pro then transcoding over to uncompressed avi at 1920x1080, pixel ratio=1, which is then imported to MF6 and burned as avchd (with AC3 audio) at 17000K. (Vegas has avchd burning but not near as good as MF6... IMO).

I have not had one failure and the quality is top notch.

hdspringer98 · Post by **hdspringer98** » Mon May 12, 2008 1:50 pm

Westlight, when you are burning avchd to dvd are you using 1920x1080 or 1440x1080? Also is "x-disc" checked or unchecked? Would you please post the detailed settings you used to have the success you enjoy.

Thanks!

hdspringer98 · Post by **hdspringer98** » Mon May 12, 2008 4:57 pm

I've been continuing to read through different posts and I'm hearing that MF6 is better for dealing with and burning AVCHD to DVD. Is that true, did I waste money on VS11.5 when I should have just bought MF6? Arg!

westlight · Post by **westlight** » Mon May 12, 2008 5:41 pm

hdspringer98

I'm not at the PC (home) where I work on these projects so for now I'm going off the top of my head regarding the settings.

Settings, 1440x1080, yes on the chapters, menus and music I've selected to accompany the menus. In the original project file ".vsp" I've included transitions, stills, background music and narrations.

So far what has worked best for me has been to create an mpeg2 to a hard drive without the menu. Then I start a new project in VS11.5+. There is nothing actually in the timeline. I then go to Share>Create Disk>AVCHD. I then select the previously created mpeg2 file, add chapters and menus then burn that to a standard DVD I've had great results though creating the menus is a pain and with no easy/known way to save the menus, if something goes wrong during the burn, you have to create them all over again. Someone (developer) was not thinking when they set this part up.

As I write I have my system at home trying to burn that same project (.vsp) directly to a standard DVD, by-passing the mpeg2 step. It chashed during the first attempt so I'll see what happens when I get home. This is about a 35 minute video that was originally shot in HD on the Canon HG-10.

Actually I a bit confused about the different formats and will be creating a post on this matter. I'm not sure if I'm loosing any quality by doing the mpeg2 rendering first, but I know several attempts on my previous system to go direct to AVCHD from the .vsp file always failed. Seems perhaps MF6 does a better job of this? I wonder if you can "import" a .vsp into MF6? I'm not at all familiar with it.

supercar · Post by **supercar** » Mon May 12, 2008 5:51 pm

I've written a couple of DVD-R disks with AVCHD. I have to agree the menu part is a bit of a pain if the process is done in 2 steps; convert to AVCHD in one step and write disk in a separate session.

This last week I successfully created a disk using a 1-step process where the video was edited in VS11.5 and the I wrote the disk from this same session. The advantage of this is that the tool knows where you created scenes and you can you it automatically put chapters at those points. The disadvantage is that if you create a coaster I haven't found a way to get use/find the intermediate AVCHD files that must be created, so I've had to reconvert. Does anybody know how/where the AVCHD is stored in this process and if it can be reused?

Thanks,
Dave

westlight · Post by **westlight** » Mon May 12, 2008 8:51 pm

Yes, I've also amassed a large collection of coasters.

Has anyone had much experience with creating the project in VS11.5 then using MF6 to burn the project direct as an ACVHD? I have not used MF6 so I didn't know if that program is better suited for this or not.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:53 pm

supercar -- have you checked in the default working directory (File > Preferences > General) to see if the intermediate AVCHD files are there?

supercar · Post by **supercar** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:05 pm

Ken,
I wasn't sure where to look, so I don't know if the files were still there. I'll check to see if any of the older files appear to still be there. I don't know if/when it cleans up. I'll try and check this next time I am trying any of this.

Thanks,
Dave

neonbob · Post by **neonbob** » Tue May 13, 2008 12:44 am

westlight wrote:I have not used MF6 so I didn't know if that program is better suited for this or not.

I have not tried VS11 so I'm no help to you there. But as far as avchd burning goes, I've tried Vegas 8, as well as Pinnacle studio and MF6 beats them both hands down for producing both single layer and double layer disks for playback in the PS3.

On the double layer disks I can't even tell where the layer break is.... it's quite seamless.

I never had too much respect for MF6.... until now anyway. They have done a great job with this program. In fact there are quite a few on the Vegas pro site saying the same thing.