Newbie - Information on 11+ required

[alan]

I have purchased a Canon HG10 Camcorder. I have installed the Corel Applications disk.
I then purchased the Video Studio 11+ plus onto my computer. I also removed the Movie Factory SE.

I have installed 11 plus + patches etc. I edited several video files, but after running through it would only let me view about 90 seconds of video. It said "insufficient memory."

1. Do I need to upgrade to 4 gig of RAM ?

2. Do I need to re install Movie Factory SE ?

3. It takes about 84 minutes to process & complete installation of video 1.7 gig onto a DVD is this "normal ?"

4. Does the software allow for multisession DSVD recording ?

Hope you will be able to assist ?

[Ken Berry]

Welcome to the forums.

As it happens, we had a similar question just tonight, and it is at the moment listed right after yours. Please see http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 768#156768 for my comments on exactly how demanding AVCHD (which is what your Canon films in) actually is. While you have a Core 2 Duo processor, it is at the bottom end of them, and I suspect you really need both to have upgraded to VS11.5+ with both the 6 November 2007 update patch and 8 Nov Power Pack, for your computer to begin to deal with AVCHD properly. And even then, I suspect you would need to use SmartProxy.

1. Probably not. You don't say what your operating system is, but if it is Vista, then extra RAM certainly helps with Vista alone -- but there is a quirk that Vista does not seem to be able to deal with anything above 3 GB of RAM particularly well. I have a HP Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz laptop with 2 GB RAM which seems to be OK with AVCHD, though still rather slow. My Core 2 Quad 6600 seems much better.

2. Could be. Quite often, companies like Canon tweak programs to work with their hardware. I am also aware that one of our high def gurus, etech, says the full version of MF6 with update patches/power pack (i.e. not an SE version) does a better job more easily with avchd than VS11,.

3. I have no idea since I had no idea of your workflow. But it could easily be normal with your computer...

4. No idea what you are talking about. The only DSVD I am aware of relates to voice modems...

[alan]

Hi Ken,
Thanks for your reply. My operating system is;

Windows XP Home Edition SP3.
Processor Intel 8400.
"2 gig RAM"

The last question a typing error, should read "DVD"

Thanks again.

[Ken Berry]

Ah... But no, no multisession burns to a DVD. In fact, I am not aware of any editing package which allows multisession burns when talking about *video* DVDs.

Also an apology. I said that your processor was perhaps at the bottom of the Core 2 Duo range, when in fact it is up near the top. (I just glanced at your specs and saw the 'BIOS 1.8' reference, and read that as 1.8 GHz instead of the 3.0 GHZ your E8400 actually has!) And that of course means it should be able to handle AVCHD quite easily.

And in that light, the burning time you specify does seem a bit long. However, it also suggests to me that you workflow might still be due for a bit of closer examination. When you edit, do you then, as a discrete step, first convert the project to a new AVCHD file? Indeed, it is not completely clear to me whether you are trying to burn an AVCHD file to a standard DVD for playback on a Blu-Ray player in high def format; or whether you are downconverting the high def to standard def DVD-compatible mpeg-2 for a standard def DVD...

If the latter, then you should be converting your AVCHD to the standard mpeg-2 (using Share > Create Video File > DVD) as a separate step in the Editing module after you have finished editing. Note also that after you produce your new mpeg-2, you go to File > New Project. Don't worry about giving your new project a name. The objective is just to clear the timeline of your current project.

Once that is done, you select Share > Create Disc > DVD. The burning module will open. Use the Add Media button at the top to insert your new mpeg-2 in the burning timeline. Then go to the middle of the three icons in the bottom left of the burning screen. There is a little box beside the words 'Do not convert compliant mpeg files'. Make sure that box is ticked (it usually is by default). That way, your already compliant mpeg file will not be re-encoded. Then build your menus and burn.

Paradoxically, however, if you are intending to burn AVCHD in high def format to a standard DVD blank, then the recommendation is to finish your editing, and jump straight to the burning module (Share > Create Disc > AVCHD). This will automatically insert your project file into the burning timeline. And you proceed from there. I take it that you understand that such a disc will only be able to take between 30 and 40 minutes of video... and the disc will only play in a Blu-Ray player (including Play Station 3)?

Either way, though, it will still be a relatively lengthy process because AVCHD remains a demanding process regardless of your computer...

[alan]

Hi Ken,
Thanks for your comprehensive reply.

What I am doing (in layman's terms) is to edit a number of AVCHD files, then save the whole file, I then burn to a DVD in standard format to play on my computer or DVD player attached to the TV.

From your comments I am not saving each file as I go along. I will take note of what you have said. It would seem from your comments that I
have not been processing theses files correctly.

This is my first time with a camcorder & software package of this kind. If I have further difficulties I will get back to you.

[alan]

Hi Ken,

I have now decided to install the Corel Application Disk V2, which came with the Canon HG10 camcorder.

The Corel V2 includes Intervideo WinDVD SE, Ulead Movie Factory SE and DVD Movie Writer SE. Corel Menu Guide.

I have taken the VideoStudio 11.5+ plus, off my hard drive.

I have made my first DVD, using Corel V2, its not perfect but I will keep tying.

What would happen if I now re installed the Video Studio 11+ with the Corel disk 2 programme installed ?

Would there be a conflict or can I use both programmes in conjunction with on another?

[Ken Berry]

What would happen if I now re installed the Video Studio 11+ with the Corel disk 2 programme installed ?

I wouldn't think it would do any harm -- after all, the programs are *all* made by Corel these days! In fact, there is a possibility that VS11 might then use the common files (possibly tweaked) which are already installed, and that could be a good thing.

One thing, though. I know you said at the outset you had VS11+ plus patches, but can you click on the ? button the top right of the VS screen, and then go to "About VS11". Your version needs to be 11.5.0157.2 for it to work correctly with AVCHD...