rendeered video is jumpy when people are moving

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rendeered video is jumpy when people are moving

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I am looking to upgrade from VideoStudio 7 to VideoStudio 11 Plus. As a test, I created a DVD using V 11 from an MPEG file that had previously been the source for a DVD created with V 7. The V7 DVD video is fine but the V 11 DVD video is very jumpy when people are moving. It appears that a lot of frames have been dropped resulting in the jumpy movement. Is there a setting that I need to change to correct this? Thanks.
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Post by sjj1805 »

The normal; cause for jumpy videos are selecting an incorrect field order.
Normally:
From a Digital source like a camcorder - Lower Field First
From an analogue source like a TV card - Upper Field First
Still images - e.g. from a digital camera, scanner or drawn - frame based.

Other popular causes include incorrect frame rate such as selecting NTSC instead of PAL or vice versa.
Then as you yourself suggested - dropped frames. That is often caused by a computer not up to the job or due to "capturing" via a USB cable instead of using an IEEE1394 firewire cable. You should also try and capture to the same format as the source - for example a mini DV camcorder should be captured to DV (avi) and not MPEG2.
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Field order for imported AVCHD file

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I use VS 11.5 Plus to import Panasonic SD-9 mts file. No problem found. But when I checked the properties of the imported mts file. It is in H.264 Upper field order instead of Lower field order. Any reason why? Can I make the mts file to become Lower Field First after importing?
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Post by Black Lab »

No, you can't change the field order of your clips, but you can (and should) change your project properties so the field order matches your clips.
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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi rehert
You need to keep the original video properties in tact. (the same)
Did you edit the original Mpeg prior to burning.
If yes, did you create a second Mpeg from the project.
If no, did the burner module render the Mpeg prior to burning.
This can be identified by the burners blue progress bar indicating ¡¥Create Title¡¦

Both completed DVD¡¦s should use the same properties for there respective video files.

Please check the properties for both discs.

I use Power DVD and can view the properties as the disc plays.
Trevor Andrew

Re: Field order for imported AVCHD file

Post by Trevor Andrew »

pangwu wrote:I use VS 11.5 Plus to import Panasonic SD-9 mts file. No problem found. But when I checked the properties of the imported mts file. It is in H.264 Upper field order instead of Lower field order. Any reason why? Can I make the mts file to become Lower Field First after importing?
Hi

I do not use High Definition, but believe the field order to be Upper Field first.
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Post by pangwu »

Yes, I understand that the whole conversion from AVI to DVD or AVCHD to DVD shouldn't change the field order if I want the movie running smooth. But based on the above reply, it seems that all digital camcorder file should be Lower Field Order first. That's why I want to check why AVCHD file is Upper Field Order first by default. Besides, there is no way in VS11.5 Plus to set Field Order when importing AVCHD file as compared with capturing AVI from DV which allows you to select field order.
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Post by Ken Berry »

I am sure Steve was only speaking generally. In fact, the mini DV series of video cameras which he, me and many others use, films using Lower Field First. But in fact, just about every other type of video camera -- mini DVD, hard disk, high definition, SD card/AVCHD -- use Upper Field First.

If it films in DV format and uses firewire, then the general rule is that it will be Lower Field First. But there is a glaring exception, which is the high def HDV video camera which in high def mode films in HDV format, which is a special form of mpeg-2, and it is Upper Field First. But if you use the same camera in standard definition mode, or download a HDV video in standard definition DV format, then it will convert to Lower Field First! And as you have already found, ditto with AVCHD cameras as well... :lol:
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Post by pangwu »

Thanks for clarification. At least you have confirmed Upper Field First is ok for my case.
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