MSP 8 Upgrade, and AVCHD

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rickasaurus
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MSP 8 Upgrade, and AVCHD

Post by rickasaurus »

Hi,
I am currently using Video Studio 11 Plus, but have previously used MSP 6.5. Frankly I much prefer the facilities and user interface of MSP, however my old 6.5 is way out of date for widescreen, HD etc.

I am thinking to upgrade to MSP 8. Could you tell me if MSP8 has the capability to edit files from AVCHD format camcorder?

Also, is ULEAD still offering upgrades? I can't find anywhere on the website that I can select to buy an upgrade, only the full-price version.
thanks
Rick
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Post by tyamada »

As far as I know MSP8 only works with HDV, the program hasen't been updated since June 2006 (SP1). No support for AVCHD.
It seems that Corel isn't going to release a replacement for MSP8 and there is no longer an upgrade path for it. Their web site has it at full retail.
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Post by rickasaurus »

OK, thanks. Too bad! :(
Are you aware of any other software which has similar functionality and user interface to MSP, which supports AVCHD?
Rick
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Post by sjj1805 »

I would wait a short while longer, VideoStudio 12 has been released in Japan and so we are all eagerly waiting for its release everywhere else.
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Post by rickasaurus »

OK, thanks for the tip. I will try to be patient!
Rick
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Post by troppo »

Nero can convert AVCHD to any other format. I use Final Cut Pro as well, which can edit AVCHD but only the Hard Drive version not from SD card.
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MSP 8 and AVCHD

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Currently VideoStudio 11.5 claims it supports AVCHD, however in practice it does not render to this format. As for MSP 8 it supports HDV, but not AVCHD. As for another software package Vega Video Pro 8 does and it does it very well. It also renders in AVCHD and at 1080i with 5.1 surround sound. Corel must not understand that this will be the predominate format in the near future. Hopefully they will upgrade MSP 8.
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Post by jpal »

Just to clarify a bit here, AVCHD is an mp4 camcorder encoding format, and what's needed is AVCHD capture software. This can be a utility from the vendor, Video Studio, or something like Vegas (which, during some of last year couldn't even capture from Sony AVCHD camcorders!). MSP does not capture from AVCHD devices.

Once on your system, editing wouldn't be done directly to the AVCHD format because of responsiveness and rendering time issues. So you're likely to be editing and possibly using several tools in your workflow on some other coding or proxies (including intermediate codecs or HDV which MSP can hack). At best using a general IC like Cineform's Neo provides the most flexibility. Given the proliferation of input and output target media types, this is an excellent solution, rather than relying on your poor old editors understanding every format under the sun.

Once you're done, then you'll encode for your target, and if you want MP4, this is likely to be to the excellent (but very encode and decode hungry) AVC standard. This is one of the supported HD disk formats, which also include HDV and VC-1 (which has great quality, is less decode resource hungry and can be produced by the Windows Media Encoder). MSP can produce HDV fine. Alternatively, you can encode projects you produced in MSP to AVC using Nero Digital (which is relatively cheap and good, has to be able to read the input files - e.g. uncompressed AVI!, and only uses 2 cores on my version), or the Sony Vegas Pro MainConcept AVC encoder which uses all 4 cores. I had hoped that VideoStudio would have AVC HD but I don't think it does in this version, nor does it seem to use multicore as advertised. Maybe VST ver 12 will change this.
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Post by rickasaurus »

I would still like to upgrade to MSP8 if I can. I agree I will need several tools, and I still like MSP better than anything else I have tried.

However, I find extreme frustration in getting through to ULEAD/Corel customer service for sales enquiries. Every email link on their website either does not work, or leads to FAQ's which go nowhere. They really are not very customer responsive these days.

Can anyone assist me with an email address to someone in customer service to whom I could enquire about getting an upgrade from MSP6.5 to MSP8? I realise an upgrade is not generally available, but perhaps no harm in asking for a special offer.
thanks
Rick
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Post by jpal »

Good luck with your quest!

Although I'm transitioning to Vegas pro right now, I still love MSP8 and will likely continue to use it for a long while yet.

I wondered if you might have some luck buying on the internet from someone who had completed the transition?

Regards John
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