Ulead VS9 - Picture on Preview Monitor disappears on Play

Granddad · Post by **Granddad** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:30 am

With the Ulead's User Interface on the monitor, Step Panel at EDIT; a clip on the Storeyboard (or Timeline), and its picture showing on the Preview Window, every time I click PLAY the picture blacks out.

This happens everytime I want to Play a new clip, whether or not Project or Clip is selected in the Navigation Panel. I have found that I can work around this by going to the Options Panel, Video Tab, and change the Clip Volume to any setting except 100 - again, everytime I want to play a new clip. It's a very tedious procedure - this 'cure' is not available for the Project setting.

A Clean Reinstallation has no effect.

Any help from anyone???

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:12 am

This is a little strange.

The only thing I can think of is for you to check a couple of settings:

(I'm presuming the settings are the same as in VS11.5+)

Press the F6 button on your keyboard when VS is open. This should pop-up the preferences settings. (if not got to: File/Preferences/..)

Under the General Tab you should try :

Playback Method: set this to "instant playback"

and

Instant playback target set to: Preview Window

Let us know if that sorts out your issue. It's strange you have to adjust the sound voloum to get images.

Granddad · Post by **Granddad** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:18 am

Clevo: Thanks for your helpfulness. Unhappily the suggested settings have not cured the problem.

I agree, it is certainly strange that an audio volume adjustment should effect image playback. I discovered this connection simply by adjusting every item available, and was lucky.
The key observation to me is that the trouble occurs only at the Clip Volume setting of 100, which I presume is a default setting. I wonder if there is any way of resetting that?
Perhaps someone with a detailed knowledge of VS's inner structure could make something of this.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:29 am

Hi Granddad

That rings a bell, I am sure this has been reported many moons ago, unfortunately I cannot remember if there was a final solution. (given time I will do a search)

You do not say what the properties of your video file is, nor whether it is related to all clips or just the one type.

VS 9 had a fix/patch, have you installed the patch (UVS9Full_Patch1_5in1.exe)

Also have you installed the ¡¥indeo¡¦ driver from the installation shield¡Xutilities.

Granddad · Post by **Granddad** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:25 am

Hi Trevor

Thanks for your reply.

I have searched as far as I am able on this without success.

The trouble occurs for all files that I have which are MPEG and AVI.

Now my ignorance really begins to show - I have not installed any patches or drivers directly in relation to VS9, and have never heard of the ones you mention. I purchased VS9 in 2006, and didn't use it until late last year. The current problem is the only one I have experienced.

I would be grateful to hear of any patches necessary and their source. Meanwhile I will do some further searching.

Regards

Granddad

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:00 am

Hi

Before you install the patchbelow , run VS 9 installation again, choose ¡¥Install Utilities¡¦
then install the Indeo driver.

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/ ... 7911963266

Click the 0.9 option, save the file to your hard drive, it¡¦s a pdf document.

Open the Pdf and scroll down for :-
Ulead VideoStudio 9 Update Pack (Release Date: 2005/08/12 )

This should be the (UVS9Full_Patch1_5in1.exe) Download the file.

I am not sure if this will cure the problem, but I always use this patch.

Once installed the start screen will show the smiling lady with a whitish background.
It¡¦s the only way I know to identify that the patch is installed.

Granddad · Post by **Granddad** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:49 pm

Hi Trevor

My thanks again. Have done all that, unfortunately without success.

There may be other benefits yet to show up from the patch installation.
I note that my VS9 version is 9.00.0000. I wonder if Ulead publish build numbers.

One further discovery in VS9: MUTING the Clip Volume allows me to Play without loss of picture. The price for this is the loss of audio on playback. But it is an improvement!

I gather that My Quick User Guide for Video Studio is your work. Either way I am very appreciative. A very thoughtful contribution. I'm working my way through it.

Regards
Granddad

PS: Having chosen "Granddad", which is what I am, I had better stick with it

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:39 am

VS9 did not include XP Media Center Edition as a supported operating system I recall a few users of that particular operating system posting problems with VS9.

The current version 11 does list XP Media Center as a supported operating system but you might want to wait a while because VS12 has recently been released in Japan so hopefully it will be released in other regions soon.

Granddad · Post by **Granddad** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:43 am

I await VS12's arrival with interest.

Thanks to all for making my first forum adventure such a pleasure.

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:17 am

Hi Granddad

Nothing wrong with that name, it comes to most of us in time.

I must admit I did not notice your operating system.
Assuming VS 9 cannot be successful using Media Center there may be a work round.

As the mute option works, try the Split Audio function, right click a clip in the timeline, select Split Audio.
This mutes the main video and places a copy of the audio stream in the voice track.

Does that play ok.

Unfortunately further editing, cutting and removing frames from the video track will result in out of sync¡¦ audio.

Not to worry you can reset the split audio, un-mute the main video and delete the voice track.
Now re-apply the split audio to the individual clips.

A bit contrived but it should work.

All the Best

Granddad · Post by **Granddad** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:31 am

Hi Trevor

Thanks for that - yes, it does play OK.

I will try it out further. I don't think the sound matters at present - perhaps I should have explained:

My starting point was 8 mm movies taken over a period of 50+ years. . My 'original' data is now in the form of DVDs containing the 'films', unedited and unsorted, which I have been capturing, using VS9, as MPEG2. I have been editing small clips suitable for insertion into slide shows (using Photodex's ProShow Producer 3, which seems to prefer AVI).
Reading your My Quick User Guide for Video Studio has induced me to recapture from the DVDs using your settings - mine were largely guesses, which I don't think were the best.. Then I will create videos as AVI.
Best wishes
Grateful Granddad[/quote]

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:14 am

If you are started with video on a DVD (regardless of its source), and importing from the DVD, you are getting DVD-compatible mpeg-2. If your ultimate intention is to burn it back to DVD in edited form, then there is absolutely no sense in first converting it to avi (regardless of the question of which exact format of avi you would be using). Each conversion results in some degradation in quality, so it would be best to keep that DVD material in the same format. That would also mean you could use SmartRender in the final step, which would only re-render the video in the immediate area of any edits you have made.

I take your point about ProShow Producer seeming to prefer AVI (which avi?). But I trust you realise you can also make slideshows with VS using your photos as JPEGs (presumably) and the import mpeg-2 video clips from your DVD.

Granddad · Post by **Granddad** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:09 am

Thanks Ken

I posted that as background to a previous, different problem - and now, as a result, some good questions arise about my procedures.
I understood the DVD/mpeg-2/DVD relationship but have yet to get to that point. I have searched as energetically as I can to learn the intricacies of the file-type/codec world but am now at an age where I probably make better progress by trial and error.

Slide shows: I have already made many of these (sans videos) using Producer and now want to include videos. I am presently awaiting a reply from Photodex to a request for a recipe for AVI's (or alternative) for Producer. It didn't occur to me that VS could be used to make slide shows - very obvious now.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:16 am

I don't know the program Producer. But there is one thing you would need to be careful about with slideshows which include video whichever program you are using. That is to ensure that the slideshow itself (which of course is converted to video) uses the same Field Order (Upper Field First or Lower Field First) at the video you include in it; and only to use video which has one or the other Field Order...

I always make my slideshows (which usually don't include video clips) Frame Based (i.e. neither Upper nor Lower Field First). But if you do that and include video, then the video will only play correctly on a computer monitor and, normally, also on a high falutin' modern digital TV which uses progressive scan (akin to frame based). If you yourself have an older type of TV or intend distributing your masterpieces to friends and family who have such TVs, then you have to give your videos, and slideshows which include videos, a Field Order. Photos can take on the attributes of either Field Order, so that is not important.

But if you use video which started life with Upper Field First, then you have to maintain Upper Field First throughout the project up to and including the burning process. That is Golden Rule Number 1 of video editing/authoring. If you change the original Field Order of video, then you will get various artifacts enter the picture quite literally. Common problems with wrong Field Order are jerky motion and jagged edges (known not so affectionately as 'jaggies') on straight lines during rapid motion or panning shots.

And Golden Rule 2 is: never mix Upper Field First video with Lower Field First video. A final video can only have one field order. But if you mix video of the two different types, then one or the other will be jerky or have jaggies in the final DVD.

Incidentally, to find which Field Order your 8mm collection has been converted with, open one of the captured mpeg-2s in Video Studio -- either in the Library Pane or in the timeline. Right click on it, and choose Properties. If you like, you could posts all of the properties here as it could be helpful if you later run into problems with a slideshow should you choose to try making one with Video Studio.

PS: I have just downloaded and leafed through the 232 page user manual for Photodex's ProShow Producer 3. Wow -- looks like quite a program, and all that, just to produce a slideshow!!! At the same time, however, I could not find any reference to the Field Order questions I mentioned above, either in the body of the manual as I admittedly only flicked through it, or in the index at the back. The Chapter on DVD creation also does not mention it.

And a further footnote -- don't worry about the Granddad business. Not everyone on this Board is a young 'un!

I am 58 for instance, and only started video editing about 7 years ago with VS7... And I suspect there may be others amongst my colleagues who are even older!! (And while not a grandfather, I am at least a granduncle several times over!)

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:59 pm

Hi Granddad.

Thanks to Ken for his excellent explanation. I hope my site has not confused the situation.

The DVD you are using has been created using your DVD recorder. I do not own a recorder but assume you have no settings to make, you just copy the VHS to DVD.

These original video files properties should be used throughout your editing.

When you import the DVD the video file properties are not changed, its rather like copying the data to your hard drive. No re-coding.

When the video is inserted to the timeline VS changes the Project Properties to match.

Ultimately you will create a new video file of your project Share Create Video File, this option should use the same video properties.

The only reason to change the Bit Rate would be to fit more than 60 minutes to a disc.
(Saying that it would be interesting to know the original video properties.)
The resultant video file can be used to burn a new DVD.

Ok
From File Preferences make sure that ¡¥Show messages when inserting¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K.¡¦ Is selected.
Start a new project
Insert a video clip to the timeline.
A message appears ¡¥Do you want to change the project properties¡K¡K¡K.
Select details
Using your mouse, highlight the right info panel
Use Ctrl+C to copy
Paste the info to the forum, Ctrl+V
Select yes and your project properties match your video file.

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