HDV back to camera

zoobie · Post by **zoobie** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:20 am

Has anyone ever figured out how to spit a project back to their HDV camera?
I've got a signal on sony hc-5's lcd screen but it's not recording it.
I've also read that the cam wants a program stream when VS is making a transport.
What's the latest?

VS 11.5.0157.2

zoobie · Post by **zoobie** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:27 pm

Issues Resolved:
Sometimes writing back to the Sony HC-7 will fail.

huh-uh
so, we're supposed to wait 18 months for the patch?

Quijote · Post by **Quijote** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:46 pm

Hi,
I'd like to piggyback onto this thread. I have a Canon HG10 with internal hard disk. I edited a project in AVCHD (proxy files, of course) and then wrote out a AVCHD file formatted as if I were going to burn it to Blue-ray. I tried to copy that back to the camera using the little utility program that came with the camera. But it doesn't show up on the camera playback nor can I see it on TV via HDMI.

I'm wondering if anyone has successfully done this.......

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Regards,

zoobie · Post by **zoobie** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:12 pm

has anyone noticed that writing back to tape fails with every junior editor offered by the big boys?
pinnacle, adobe, ulead, sony...none write properly back to tape...yet their big brother pro versions all do...hmmm
I think we've found the problem...this was a feature that's obviously been disabled...and not just by ulead/corel...but everyone

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:09 pm

We British don't have that problem. The Inland Revenue take the view that if you can record back to the camcorder that it is a Video Recorder and so it attracts a higher rate of tax. To keep prices low the camcorder manufacturers have disabled the ability to record back to the camcorder.

In other words it is video output only with no video input.
This also prevents us from using our camcorders as a "pass through" device.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:18 pm

Well that sucks.

zoobie · Post by **zoobie** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:34 pm

I've another POV because I can write back to my HC5 another way

My take on it is that m2t is probably one of the most proprietary codecs out there...and every program seems to put it's little ownership stamp on it when processed...just capping starts the ball rolling

msp8 and vegas 8 have an easier go at this back to tape biz...

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:46 pm

But can you confirm that it is sent back to the camera as HDV and not SD mpeg?

zoobie · Post by **zoobie** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:49 pm

yes...I deleted my method but I was going to say...you have to recap your exported video which I was able to do and it was HDV...
my method was with vegas7e which I elected to delete since this is the vs forum

I tried running HDV (saved as .mpg) thru tmpegenc mpeg 2.0 (does not re-encode) and then sending that m2t to tape in VS...this was the last hurrah...

sorry to say it didn't work...VS took a perfectly ready to go m2t stripped of proprietary code then reencoded it to fail

maybe sjj1805 is right...it becomes some sort of copyright infringement as a full d-vcr...they make it difficult but not impossible

patHV10 · Post by **patHV10** » Mon May 12, 2008 6:22 pm

Good morning,

My camcorder HV10 is the only HD source available to me, so I have to rewrite the edited sequences with VS11 + on DV tape to view them on my great LCD.
VS11 + can produce a transport-file HDV coded MPG2 (CBR = 25Mb/s).
Then it is easy to re-record the sequence (via IEEE1394) on DV tape in HDV quality.
EXCEPT THAT:
The parties amended (re-encoded) by VS11 + when editing fail to writing and give rise to an error message or a blue screen on the camcorder.
The only possible actions are cutting the video sequences and the insertion of short transitions between clips.
Everything else fails to writing: titles, still images and so on ...
I think the only explanation is that VS11+ is unable to encode the mpeg2 at a CBR of 25 Mbit/s.
(VS11+ re-encode only the parties changed from the original sequence)

Why that ? I don't know!

Help me ,i am very disappointed

Thanks

zoobie · Post by **zoobie** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:27 am

So you've been successful printing an VS-made m2t back to tape but only with very little editing? Doesn't sound very useful...

I heard some have been successful with MSP 8 but I wasn't able to do so. Why? I've a sneaky suspicion that this may be camera and country specific...we know it won't work with European cams....

Better try another editor so you can print back to tape the normal way...

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