Problems with Ulead v6.02 Output

ecstest · Post by **ecstest** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:46 pm

Hi,

We have connected the STB via S video cable to the Belkin USB 2.0 device.
The version of the Ulead software is 6.02.

The output video is blurred and hardly viewable.We have tried display settings with PAL and NTSC.

Observation:-We have tried different Frame size and output size but it makes no difference.

Urgent response will be appreciated.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:15 pm

What Belkin USB 2.0 device - Belkin make lots of things and most of them connect to the computer via USB 2.

VideoStudio 6???
Did you mean MovieFactory 6 - the current version of VideoStudio is 11 and we are expecting 12 to be coming along soon.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:03 pm

Like Steve, I too am puzzled by exactly which program you have and exactly which model Belkin you have.

However, my experience with S-Video suggests to me that it really only works or works well when connecting either a VCR playing back material taped using S-Video or else to a device which can directly use S-Video, and by that I don't mean a device such as the Belkin which has an S-Video connection but which is connected to a computer connection (USB 2.0) which was not designed originally to handle S-Video. I emphasise that this is merely my own observation based on trial and error.

However, with my own external USB capture device, I find that I get better results when using the standard yellow RCA video cable (as well as the red and white or black RCA cables necessary for the audio -- I assume you realise that S-Video only transmits the video signal but not audio...)

One other general observation: it is often best to use any proprietary software which comes on the installation disc with the capture device as this is made by the hardware manufacturer to work specifically with their device. I don't know what Belkin usually bundles with their devices, but it could be that the Ulead program -- whatever it is -- has been tweaked by Belkin specifically to capture from the device. But I would first check to see whether there is any other specific capture software on the Belkin installation disk.

ecstest · Post by **ecstest** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:15 am

Hi,
Please,hereby find the relevant details:-

1.Belkin Video Capture device-FU5228.

2.Ulead Video Studio6.0 for video capture.

Note:-Please also find the product details link we are using in our setup.

http://uk.insight.com/apps/productprese ... 8&src=sho1

Problem We Have Now:-
The picture is blurred and bad quality.
Analysis from our side:-
Under Video pin capture, the working machine was set to 320x240 for output size (and has multiple other options). Live is set to 160x120 & does not have an option to change it

Setup:-We are using DL380 G4 standard configuration machine with powered USB hubs.The Belkin is used to capture STB output.

An early response is appreciated.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:34 am

What is your "STB" Device (Satelite television Broadcast maybe?)
What is a DL380 G4 standard configuration machine (Your computer maybe?)

VideoStudio 6 is way out of date, the current verion 11 will soon be replaced by VideoStudio 12. The letters SE stand for "Special Edition" but we here prefer to call it "Simple Edition" - it is not the full product but a very watered down version designed to get you to buy a more up to date copy.

Whatever it is, USB is not normally the best form of capture - for that you need IEEE1394 (Firewire) unless all you are doing is transfering existing computer files from one machine to another such as from an external hard drive or a hard drive camcorder.

How to complete your system specifications
Please complete your system specifications.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:08 am

Steve -- I am pretty sure ecstest meant 'set top box' by STB. And as far as I am aware, the DL380 G4 is a HP server... though it could also be a regular PC.

ecstest -- thanks for providing the details, plus the link to the Belin website. I see from that that indeed VS6 SE DVD seems to be the only program provided with the device, though it also comes with "drivers and utilities". Can we assume you loaded those?

Apart from that, though, I have no experience at all in trying to capture from a STB, so cannot help any further on that one apart from reiterating my suggestion that you try capturing using only the RCA plugs. Does the STB have a SCART connection, by any chance? If so, do you have a SCART/RCA adapter?

martythebrit · Post by **martythebrit** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:31 pm

Dump the USB 2 "thingy" and get a PCI/PCI-E capture card. They shouldn't be much more than you paid for the USB 2 device and will probably give better results. I like the Leadtek products but most should work. Having said that, all source material should be good quality, if it isn't your on a downwards slope.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:04 pm

Yes, if your objective is to capture high def (or even analogue) TV, an internal high def TV/capture card is the way to go... But you will probably run into compatibility issues with VS there too.

I currently have two such cards in two different computers. One is a DVico Fusion dual TV capture card. Quality is truly superb, but quirkily, while you can set it to capture in standard mpeg-2, by default it captures to (IMHO) better quality transport stream high def mpeg-2 format which uses the .ts extension. However, there is only a very small number of programs which can see this format. VS is not one of them, so it still needs to be converted if editing in VS is intended. (Luckily, I have Womble which is a dedicated mpeg editor and happily both sees and edits .ts files. Moreover, it can convert them to excellent quality standard definition DVD compatible mpeg-2 for burning to disc...)

I also have a Winfast DTV2000H card, and while VS can see it, I find that the software which comes with the card gives more options and flexibility. It captures in conventional high def mpeg-2 format and there is no problem in opening captured files in VS for editing.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:15 am

Continuing on from Kens post above, I have 3 different Hauppauge TV Devices (in separate computers)
1) WinTV PVR 350 PCI
2) WinTV HVR 1300 PCI
3) USB WinTV Nova TD Stick

All are recognised by the VideoStudio and also MovieFactory software.
However I do my recordings with the software native to the Hauppauge Range WinTV 2000 which offers more control over the recordings - in particular being able to set the computer to record at a future time/date.

Whilst you cannot do this with the USB stick, the 2 PCI cards also enable you to connect things by way of RCA cables, This is a good way of recording from VHS tapes, Freeview Boxes and Sky+ Satelllite receivers.

NoM.O · Post by **NoM.O** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:23 pm

I've had this exact Belkin device for about 3 years now, and while I've never tried to capture from a STB, I think you're probably wasting your time.

The 'PAL DVD' preset is the only configuration which is half way acceptable IMHO, and even then I'd only use it for low quality VHS source material.

I certainly wouldn't use VS6 for editing/authoring either. Strictly for capture purposes only. There are all sorts of reasons for this, but the most important is that it doesn't edit MPEG files well at all, and since this is the only format it will capture to 'cleanly', you'll need something a little more robust for editing and authoring. (Note: While you can use later versions of VS for editing and authoring, your Belkin device will only work properly with the version it came bundled with).

Like Ken, I also use a Dvico card, VS doesn't like it, but I would agree that the quality is superb.

peace.

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