UVS9.0 with Dazzle DVC90 (Sound problem)

DreamsMaker · Post by **DreamsMaker** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:12 pm

The DVC90 (Digital Video Creator) has a DVC90 audio device driver. This driver is correctly installed. I can see this hardware in the hardware managment list. Now, This DVC90 audio device doesn't appear in the UVS9.0 audio device list. What is in the list is Mic and line input. There is no DVC90 audio in the list. The reason why I need this in the list is, because this will allow me to hear what I'll be recording in sync with what is played in the screen. However, this problem doesn't exist in the XP pro. This problem took place when I upgraded my OS to Vista Home premium.
I did install the DVC90 vista driver (NO success)
I did install vista package for UVS9.0 (NO success)

I dont know why the UVS90 doesnt recognize the DVC90 audio device

PLZ, I need your support in this strange situation.

with regards

DVDDoug · Post by **DVDDoug** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:45 pm

I don't know if this will help, but I've heard that some audio inputs are hidden or disabled by default in Vista. Here are some instructions on how to enable these hidden inputs.

In general, I recommend using the capture-software that's specifically made to work with your capture-hardware. (In your case, Pinnacle). You just can't count on unrelated capture-software and capture-hardware working together. (My hypothesis is that there is no Microsoft-standard for capture-drivers, like there is for things like printers.)

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:13 pm

I did install vista package for UVS9.0 (NO success)

There is no such 'package' for VS9. VS9 is not compatible with Vista, period. There is a 'package' for VS10 which sort of makes it work with Vista. But don't expect VS9 to work properly...

In addition, Pinnacle is 'notorious' for making their hardware devices only work properly with their own software (i.e. Pinnacle Studio). So Doug's advice is even more relevant in this regard. You need to use Pinnacle Studio to capture and then you can open the captured files in VS for editing -- but bearing in mind again the fact that VS9 will not work properly under Vista.

DreamsMaker · Post by **DreamsMaker** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:02 pm

I'm sorry, I meant vista package for UVS10.0.

I'll try to use pinnacle although UVS is much better

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:13 pm

So did you try to install a patch meant for VS10 on VS9, or are you actually using VS10?

I would at this point recommend doing a complete un-install/re-install. Ulead programs leave a lot of files behind. So just doing a simple add/remove programs from the control panel and then re-installing may not correct some issues. Instructions can be found here : Re-installation of Ulead Products

Once that is done Try some of the solutions provided on Vista Help Page for getting older programs to run on Vista.

You might get VS9 to run on Vista, however there is no guarantee that it will be stable. VS9 uses the VFW(Video For Windows) and DirectShow, where as these may not be supported in Vista.

DreamsMaker · Post by **DreamsMaker** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:59 pm

vidoman wrote:So did you try to install a patch meant for VS10 on VS9, or are you actually using VS10?

I would at this point recommend doing a complete un-install/re-install. Ulead programs leave a lot of files behind. So just doing a simple add/remove programs from the control panel and then re-installing may not correct some issues. Instructions can be found here : Re-installation of Ulead Products

Once that is done Try some of the solutions provided on Vista Help Page for getting older programs to run on Vista.

You might get VS9 to run on Vista, however there is no guarantee that it will be stable. VS9 uses the VFW(Video For Windows) and DirectShow, where as these may not be supported in Vista.

No sir, I'm using UVS 10.0. I used this product on XP and it is working very fine. However, when I switched to Vista, there is no incoming sound from dazzle Digital Video Creator 90.

In the UVS 10.0 through using XP, I can choose the sound source which is actually Dazzle card. However, in Vista, there is no Dazzle card as a sound source to be choosed. There is just Mic, Line-in.
I hope u got what is the actual problem of mine.

Regards.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:41 pm

It is almost undoubtedly a driver issue. Have you visited the Dazzle website to see if they have brought out a new audio driver which is compatible with Vista?

DreamsMaker · Post by **DreamsMaker** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:20 pm

Ken Berry wrote:It is almost undoubtedly a driver issue. Have you visited the Dazzle website to see if they have brought out a new audio driver which is compatible with Vista?

I did visit the Pinnacle website - which produces Dazzle products-. I did download the Vista version for the Dazzle. NOTHING changed.
I did try the Studio 11.0 plus, which is Pinnacle software meant to work with dazzle in Vista Environment. Both Video and Audio sources are recognized by this software and working fine. So, I think this is not driver issue since it worked with Studio 11.0 plus. Ulead Video Studio 10 has the Audio issue problems with the Dazzle, It doesn't recognize the Dazzle Audio source. Is there any suggestions?.

Regards.

DreamsMaker · Post by **DreamsMaker** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:48 pm

I want to add something.
I did try a trial software from the Internet, and it displays to me the Video only without the Audio, which is the same thing as in the Ulead Video Studio 10. I dont know why pinnacle products doesn't work with other softwares like UVS10 and the one wich I tried.

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:23 pm

For exactly the same reason why some Microsoft software works only with other Microsoft software or Sony DVCAMs work only with other Sony DVCAMs: so that once you're hooked onto their make, you have to stay on it or start afresh.

Have you tried removing all added codecs? See http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=29725

DreamsMaker · Post by **DreamsMaker** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:27 pm

The thing is I dont have the Dazzle DVC90 Audio "option" in the list. So, even if there was a codec problem issue, this option should be there.
I'm thinking to smach dazzle device and purchase another "Brand new" one.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:08 am

Even if you throw away the Dazzle and buy something new, there is a very real and big risk that you will meet the same problem. Quite a few companies like Pinnacle make capture devices and cards which only work properly with their own software. And they won't share their technical secrets with other companies like Ulead/Corel so that programs like Video Studio will work with their devices.

That is why we usually recommend that people use the software which came with the capture device to do the capturing. Then when all the video is captured, it is a simple matter to simply open the captured video in Video Studio for editing. A lot of us here use many more than one program for any single editing project. Personally, for example, I use WinDV to capture from my mini DV camera or HDVSplit from my high definition camera, Video Studio for editing, Cool 3D Production Studio or Xara 3D for my titles, SonicFire Pro for my music, CanopusFX or Adorage for my transitions, and Movie Factory 6 or DVD Workshop or even Nero sometimes for my authoring.

The more you get into video editing, the more you will find that no single program does everything perfectly, and that some programs do certain steps better than others. So the idea is to use a variety of tools at different stages of your editing and authoring to obtain the best final product...

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:04 am

If you do scrap the Dazzle, go for the Canopus ADVC series. These produce a DV stream that gives no hassle with Ulead products. See http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=29031

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:33 pm

While I completely agree with Devil, you must be aware that they also cost up to 5 times the price!!!

Devil · Post by **Devil** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:47 pm

Yer pays yer money, yer gets what yer pays for!

The ADVC-110, which is arguably the best choice, can be found for less than 200 buckaroos. The -55 has only half the functionality but is only a few dollars less. The -300 has the same functions as the -110 plus time-base correction and a few other niceties but costs over twice as much.