Uploading to YouTube

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:03 pm

Great,

I had just tried this with the slideshow (link posted above). Previously I've been using a DV to created the WMV, or other. I need to try this with a video file now and see how that turns out..

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:06 pm

I've seen some stuff on youtube that's heaps better than mine and I don;t think they were shooting in HD but probabaly a better SD camcorder than mine though

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:09 pm

I should go to sleep...I read back at what i write and realise I could have expressed that better LOL.

Quijote · Post by **Quijote** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:27 pm

I guess I have to weigh in again and urge you to create your own FLV file and don't yield to the temptation to use VSP just because it has a routine in its menus to export to YouTube. You can render your project to a DVD mpeg that you will later burn to DVD. You can take that file and then use Riva FLV Encoder (freeware) and convert to a 320x240 FLV file that YouTube will use directly. As a musician, audio quality is critical, so I make my FLV files with the audio maxed out.
The only sample I have on YouTube right now was shot in low light on an 8mm camcorder. The audio came from the camcorder's microphone at a considerable distance from the source. Given how bad that was, I couldn't afford to give anything away by having YouTube re-render my work. Here is our sample - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJNBtc4rH8&feature=user

http://www.sailingflamenco.com

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:13 am

Quijote... for my next video I will certainly try your method. The website says Windows 98 or better but doesn't cleary state if it will run in Vista 64bit. I'll still give it a try

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:02 am

Considering the low light the Quality looks good, If you use the Full Screen Mode you get some ghosting but that was to be expected under those lighting conditions. I would be interested in viewing another of your videos using your method but taken in proper lighting so that we can assess the quality better.

You might also like to post these videos in our members samples

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:16 am

I don;t usually go full screen in youtube... is this a common way to view videos?

My monitors native resolution is 1680 x1050 and at full screen everything looks fuzzy from youtube

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:43 am

With the video on display on you tube, click the bottom right hand corner - the video then goes full screen. Currently the machine I am using is opne at work with a resoloution 1024x768. My own at home use higher resolutions.

Compare normal screen to full screen with this training video I placed on VEOH. Create Subtitles with VS11+ for use in MF6+ (Video)

You will find the full screen more legible than the smaller screen.

Quijote · Post by **Quijote** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:02 am

Hello sjj1805,
For purposes of comparison, I have another video on YouTube that was recorded on 8MM tape, captured and edited as an AVI in Adobe Premiere (that I don't like NEARLY as well as VSP - I deleted it from my computer) and uploaded to YouTube as an MP4. They converted it to FLV. It is another flamenco performance with my wife dancing. It doesn't look too bad when the lights come up, but notice how strange the audio is. I took the audio directly off the theatre sound board and it came out really strange on YouTube - in fact, it was slightly out of sync.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9hWl3OKZE

While I am writing this, I'm uploading a new video that I hadn't really planned to upload until after I added some overlay tracks to it, but I can always take it down and reload it. I'll post the URL when it comes out.

http://www.sailingflamenco.com

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:05 am

sjj1805 wrote:With the video on display on you tube, click the bottom right hand corner - the video then goes full screen. Currently the machine I am using is opne at work with a resoloution 1024x768. My own at home use higher resolutions.

Compare normal screen to full screen with this training video I placed on VEOH. Create Subtitles with VS11+ for use in MF6+ (Video)

You will find the full screen more legible than the smaller screen.

With that example I see what you mean. I knew the option was there but never really used it.

Quijote · Post by **Quijote** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:23 am

Hello again,
I just uploaded the new FLV video to YouTube. It took 10 minutes before it showed up ready to play.

Now I warn you, this is strong meat.... traditional flamenco performed as if being judged by the flamenco community in Spain - which it is. I had them in mind as I did it.

Shot with a Canon HG10, captured and edited in AVCHD, rendered to a DVD mpeg2, and then converted to a 320x240 FLV file by Riva FLV Encoder (not related to them in any way). The audio was captured into a computer, edited in WaveLab, and saved as a WAV file. I synchronized the new audio file by using a handclap in the beginning. I just lined up the audio waveforms by dragging the new file back and forth a few frames at a time. VSP makes this easy. The lighting was harsh - a 100W bare worklight. I liked the color saturation. Like in photography, good video needs to have good blacks. The double reductions in size show up as blurryness on my face - perhaps flattering, but a lot less clarity than the original HD. The audio came through very well, I thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMmpPpjCmls

I deleted the file I originally uploaded - this one has some overlays in it to keep it from being so boring.

http://www.sailingflamenco.com

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:21 pm

Wow...

jpal · Post by **jpal** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:46 pm

I've given up on Youtube for anything serious because of the mediocre quality at best, and their attitude to PAL-land.

May I recommend Vimeo, they have a 500M limit per week upload, and can support true 720p HD video in AVC.

Quijote · Post by **Quijote** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:30 pm

The reason I've used YouTube is because the modest file size means that we can share our videos with friends and family with humble computers. Does the site you recommend stream any faster than YouTube? What is it like with those large files?
I guess I'll go try it, but another thing that is good about YouTube is that everyone uses it, so you find a lot of things of interest.
Regards,

www.sailingflamenco.com

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:49 pm

On the other hand, everyone uses it so you have to filter thru all the junk to find anything useful.