VS11+ Chapter Menu format options selection

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:29 am

virg2673 wrote:Have been told that one can have up to six Motion Menu thumbnails on a single chapter menu page, and have seen examples of four thumbnails on one page. Have looked and looked but can? find where these chapter menu page format options can be selected. Don't know if it makes any difference, but I'm not using a Main Menu, just a Chapter Menu.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Secondly, how does one change the color of the letters when editing/adding Chapter Menu or thumbnail titles?

Sorry but the thread got corrupted but not before I was able to preserve your post.

You can have more than 6
Here is one with 12

The tutorial for creating DVD Menus is here:
Authoring a DVD

More specifically the way to alter the color of Text on a menu is to right click the text and select "Font Attributes"

virg2673 · Post by **virg2673** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:29 pm

Thanks sjj1805. I read your turorial and specifically your section named "Creating The Thumbnail Menus." I also find the "DVD Menu Creation Screen" with your sub section labled "A" under "Gallery." However, when I try this on my VS11+ trial version, and left click on Gallery, there is only one option displayed.
1. Is this just a function of the VS11+ trial version, or am I missing something? My only reason for upgrading is to have the ability to get a chapter menu with 6 chapters, their associated thumbnails with Motion Menus, and chapter sub titles or numbers on a solid blue background .
2. My intent is to only have this Chapter Menu, and eliminate the Main Menu. All that I have achieved (with this Forum's coaching) with the VS11+ trial is to get back to the level where I was before using VS8. If the Forum advice or consensus is to scrap the trial version, I'll bite the bullet and try to install VS11+ without having demonstrated to myself that it will allow me to achieve my above stated objective. Your thoughts?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:41 am

Apart from Steve's first menu above, plus the possibility of constructing your own or adapting existing menus, I have just done a quick count and found at least 5 of the templates in the full version of VS11.5+ have six or more icons on a single page...

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:21 am

Trial versions only have a small amount of the available content that you are given with the full version. I don't know what items are specifically included in trial versions as I only have full versions of these products.

You can get a better idea of what content is available in the full version by
clicking here

virg2673 · Post by **virg2673** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:49 pm

My thanks to Steve and Ken. Your suggestions have persuaded me that VS11plus has the features/options that will permit me to reach my Motion Menu and Chapter Menu objectives. Therefore, it's time to stop testing and upgrade to VS11plus.

Based upon some of the horror stories that I have read on the Forum, I must admit that I dread the thought of working through the upgrade issues. However, your coaching over the past year has instilled enough confidence in me to leave my VS8 wading pool and dive into the VS11plus big boys pool, except that in my case, it looks more like a VS11+ upgrade/install swamp.

I get the impression that it might be cleaner to install the full version instead of buying the upgrade from VS8 to VS11plus, so I’ll search the Forum for install suggestions and then take the plunge. Thanks again for all of your invaluable assistance.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:38 pm

You may even want to wait for v12, which has been released in Japan and should be here in a few weeks.

virg2673 · Post by **virg2673** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:16 pm

Thanks Jeff. My only concern is that I was under the impression that VS11+ is probably more stable software than the new version.
1. Do you expect that VS12 will have that many enhancements or improvements that will be important to a novice like me?
2. After reading some of the posts regarding replacing VS8 with VS11+, I get the impression that it is recommended to remove my current VS8 before downloading VS11+. Is this correct?
3. Am I also correct in understanding that I should download DirectX from MicroSoft before installing VS11+?

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:49 am

virg2673 wrote:Thanks Jeff. My only concern is that I was under the impression that VS11+ is probably more stable software than the new version.
That seems to depend more on a person's system than anything else. Some people had no problems with v11 right out of the gate, some still have problems.

1. Do you expect that VS12 will have that many enhancements or improvements that will be important to a novice like me?
It all depends what you are looking for. From what we can decipher from the Japanese version there are some very nice enhancements in v12.

2. After reading some of the posts regarding replacing VS8 with VS11+, I get the impression that it is recommended to remove my current VS8 before downloading VS11+. Is this correct?
That is not necessary. Many people have previous version(s) on their system.

3. Am I also correct in understanding that I should download DirectX from MicroSoft before installing VS11+?
You might have to if you experience problems. I haven't updated my DirectX and I don't have any problems. Maybe that's because I still use v10+. But I'm of the mind that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

virg2673 · Post by **virg2673** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:19 am

Thanks Blacklab. I appreciate your quick response. I'll download VS11+ and start trying to get it working, that is, as soon as I can lock up all of the sharp objects in our home. Thanks again.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:32 am

Make sure you do a full and complete uninstall of the trial version before installing the full version...

virg2673 · Post by **virg2673** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:11 pm

Thank you Ken. I uninstalled VS11+ trial, but your suggestion of a "full and complete uninstall" scares me a bit. Is there some additional task that needs to be completed? It may be a mute point since I already downloaded VS11+ last night.

virg2673 · Post by **virg2673** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:31 pm

My install of VS11+ worked.

Can't believe it, but it does, so I'm back to trying to create my chapter menu. Now that I'm using the real McCoy version, I re-read Steve's tutorial on "Creating the Thumbnail Menus" before restarting my process. However, I'm still missing something.

In my Share/Create DVD workflow, I select >Share, >New Project, >Share, >Create Disc, >Do not convert compliant mpeg files, >Add Video, and then add my edited & saved mpeg video. Then >Add Chapters, >Auto Add Chapters, >Insert Scenes as Chapters and >OK.
A small pop up occurs stating, "No chapter detected," but the "Add/Edit Chapter screen says, "Total Chapters: 6" and there are 6 chapter opening frames displayed on the bottom of the "Add/Edit Chapter" screen. In addition the displayed Chapter Menu page also shows generic titles for 4 chapters on page one and 2 more on page two.

1. Why is VS11+ telling me, "No chapter detected?"
2. When I select the options under "Gallery" it only displays one or three predefined menu options, just like it did with VS11+ Trial. How do I access the other predefined chapter menu options that are referenced in Steve's tutorial?
3. How do I find the option to select a solid blue background for my chapter menu? When I select background options, there are none.

Post by **Ron P.** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:33 pm

1. Why is VS11+ telling me, "No chapter detected?"

There may not be enough change in the various scenes for VS to detect. You can manually add chapters, and if the chapters are shown in the time line, you should be able to create a chapter menu for them.

2. When I select the options under "Gallery" it only displays one or three predefined menu options, just like it did with VS11+ Trial. How do I access the other predefined chapter menu options that are referenced in Steve's tutorial?

Did you install the content file? There are 3 download files, 2 which should be installed. The third is bonus content, and are not required to be installed.

3. How do I find the option to select a solid blue background for my chapter menu? When I select background options, there are none.

The key to this is image. If you wish to use a solid blue background you must first create it in an graphics program, and save it as an image file.

virg2673 · Post by **virg2673** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:52 am

Thanks Vidoman. For my question #1, Why is VS11+ telling me, "No chapter detected?" you suggested that,
"There may not be enough change in the various scenes for VS to detect."
I have been testing with this same hour long home movie, and I have used the exact same frame numbers for my six chapters during each test to try to limit the number of variables that might cause problems. Both VS8 and the VS11+ trial recognized these scenes for my six chapters. Nothing has been changed other than upgrading from VS8 to VS11+, by down loading and installing.
2. Regarding my question of, "How do I access the other predefined chapter menu options?" You asked if I down loaded and installed the content file. I logged on to Corel and went through their process to purchase and then down load the upgrade from VS8 to VS11+. Are you saying that these three down load files are incorporated in the down load package? I wasn't prompted to ask for a "content" file.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:12 am

Link to VS 11/VS11+ Content and Bonus CD Files

Regarding the chapters, try adding chapters at fixed intervals.