xvid mpeg-4 (.avi) from Samsung NV10 digital cam. in UVS11+

sori · Post by **sori** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:02 pm

When I try to edit video files created by my digital camera 'Samsung NV10', with Videostudio 11+, the picture is not displayid proberly.
If I start the clip from the beginning, and don't stop on the way, the display works.
But when I start to edit, stop-start, cut, etc., the picture is displayid as squares of colours. Same thing if I render a project with such video files.

I have installed the original codec delivered with the software for the camera, and K-Lite codec pack.
I have tried to edit the file with 'UVS11+', with out K-Lite installed (only the original codec delivered with the camera, and the same problem occurs.

File format:
(Analyzed with 'GSpot'): Video = XviD ISO MPEG-4, Audio = 0x0007 (MULAW)
(When rightclicking for properties in UVS11+): Video = Xvid MPEG-4 Codec, Audio = CCITT u-Law

I use PAL setting.

Accolades · Post by **Accolades** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:06 pm

I believe you problem may be the video format:
XVid Mpg4 / Divx is a highly compressed format.

You my have to convert it to an AVI format that is 'LESS' compressed to solve your problem.

I am sure you will be led in the right direction.

sori · Post by **sori** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:57 pm

thanks for that idea, which of cause could be the 'final' solution.
but it doesn't really make sence to use a lot of time and energy on converting all those 'holiday' video files, of which I only use fractures to make my movies.

I would really prefere if there was a solution of how to use the original file format in UVS11+?

Post by **Ron P.** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:30 am

Are you wanting to place your videos on DVD? If so then they will need to be converted to DVD Compliant MPEG-2. Xvid is very highly compressed, and MPEG-2 is not as compressed as Xvid's MPEG-4.

Expect it to take a very long time to render any project, and expect the quality to be less than that of your original source videos. Don't be surprised if the audio goes out of sync with the video.

File formats such as Xvid, and DivX are meant to be distributed and viewed, not edited. For what it's worth, MPEG-2 was not meant to be edited, and there are problems that occur when editing that format, the main one being out of sync.

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:23 am

Sori, I was just looking up your camera. It's a "still" camera.

I recommend buying a MiniDV Video Camera if you are planning on shooting more video in future.

Still Cameras have very limited capapcity to store Video in anything but a very compressed and small frame size. You will not get decent DVD outputs from a still camera.

You could howvere, take very nice stills and make a slide show with VS.

2Dogs · Post by **2Dogs** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:20 am

I would try uninstalling the K lite codec pack. It can cause problems, and you can easily re-install it if need be.

I'm surprised the camera uses Xvid - which is open source freeware. VS is compatible with Xvid, however, so you could try installing the Xvid codec - or was that included in the K-Lite pack? If so, I would still uninstall K-Lite but then install Xvid on its own.

Clevo might be unaware of the great video quality you can get from some still cameras, especially the ones that use less compression. Many cameras use mjpeg compression, which makes the footage very editable. One great feature is that most digicams power up far more quickly than a camcorder, and they can also be a lot more compact - and they record to flash media of course, which is far more convenient than messing with tapes, optical discs or even hard drives.

A common problem with most digicam video is the poor sound quality.

sori · Post by **sori** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:14 pm

Hello All, thx for all your replies.

Accolades wrote:You my have to convert it to an AVI format that is 'LESS' compressed to solve your problem.

What is the best format to convert to, if I want to work with the videofiles in UVS11+, and keep as high quality video and sound as possible?

vidoman wrote:Are you wanting to place your videos on DVD?

No, I'm not planning to burn the files directly to DVD. My main purpose is to edit them with UVS11+, and render the final project to whatever format I need.

2Dogs wrote:I'm surprised the camera uses Xvid - which is open source freeware. VS is compatible with Xvid, however, so you could try installing the Xvid codec - or was that included in the K-Lite pack? If so, I would still uninstall K-Lite but then install Xvid on its own.

I tried your suggestion. Still same problem! Even when I have just the codec delivered with the camera software installed. And no other third party codecs.
And yes, one of the reasons that I bought the Samsung Camera was the truly great video quality it produces. Even the sound quality is good.

With the camera was delivered a picture'n'video editing program called 'Digimax Master', with this it is possible for me to edit the XviD video files. But the problem with this program is, that it has very basic editing functions, and I would really prefer UVS. But maybe someone could suggest and provide me with another alternative video editing program which has same or more features than UVS? (Which can work with XviD files off cause

)

Once again - PLEASE HELP - I would really like to make editing in UVS work!

Post by **Ron P.** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:26 pm

There is a freeware conversion program called Super. It can convert just about any video/audio file format to another. I have used it on several occasions. http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html.

Try using it to convert your Xvid files to MPEG-2, or DV (avi). VS can handle these formats much better. However I will reiterate, no matter what program you use, when you convert or edit such highly compressed formats, you are going to suffer a loss in quality, probably have sync issues. There's just no way around it, unless you're willing to spend well over $50k (that's thousand) in hardware, and about that much in software...