Hello, I have been reading these forums and quietly learning to use VideoStudio for a while, but there is a lot more I need to learn.
It has been my observation that when I complete a project in VideoStudio and send it to the burn module to create a DL DVD, it fits the project fine, except that I can still see about ?of an inch of the outer layer that was never touched by the laser. On most of these projects I go a little over the limit for Dual Layer DVDs, but let the burn module fit the video for 8.5 GB.
The type of video in and out does not affect the performance of the burn module in this case...
When I check with different applications the capacity used in these DVDs, they all tell me that it is 6,446MB for all projects burned with VideoStudio 11.5 .
I have been using Dual Layer DVDs since 2006 when they became available in my area and I know that one will never get to use the entire 8.5GB, but certainly more that 6,446MB when burned with other programmes.
It seems to me that the quality of the video would improve a little if the burn module made better use of the space available.
If any of you have also been burning your projects onto DL DVDs with this programme and the burn module has had to adjust or compact the project to make it fit in the DVD, it would be interesting to note how many MB was really used on your burned DVD.
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I am looking at 2 DL DVD burned with a different programme about a year ago, they both report very little over 7GB burned to them. These DVDs play well in all DVD players I have inserted them.
When burning DL, I always use Verbatim Double Layer DVD+R and never use Over Burn in any programme.
Is there any way to tell the VideoStudio burn module not to fit the video and just burn it to the hard drive so that I can later compact it and burn it with another application?
I know this post is a little long, but I would really like to find a way around this...
VideoStudio 11.5 Plus not using DL DVD+R full burn capacity
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VideoStudio 11.5 Plus not using DL DVD+R full burn capacity
Windows XP Pro, SP-2 w/all updates
P-4, 3.40E Prescott 1MB L2 Cache W/HT
2 GB Crucial Ballistix
DVD burners: Lite-On 20x Super All Write and Pioneer DVR-115D 20X
P-4, 3.40E Prescott 1MB L2 Cache W/HT
2 GB Crucial Ballistix
DVD burners: Lite-On 20x Super All Write and Pioneer DVR-115D 20X
Hi and welcome to the forum.
The DVD standard allows a maximum combined audio, video and subtitle bitrate of 10080kbps. In practice, you can get up to a video bitrate of about 9500kbps if you use compressed audio, such as Dolby or Mpeg, or 8264kbps if you use uncompressed audio.
A dual layer DVD will contain a maximum of 7.95GB of data.
Therefore you can fit up to about 1 hour and 50 minutes of video onto the disc, even if you use a fancy menu, at the maximum permissible bitrate.
It may well be that your project duration is less than than that, or that you are encoding to mpeg2 at the default setting of 8000kps variable bitrate.
In the latter case, you might be able to raise the video bitrate to the maximum permitted by the DVD standard - although the benefit in picture quality may be hardly noticeable.
The DVD standard allows a maximum combined audio, video and subtitle bitrate of 10080kbps. In practice, you can get up to a video bitrate of about 9500kbps if you use compressed audio, such as Dolby or Mpeg, or 8264kbps if you use uncompressed audio.
A dual layer DVD will contain a maximum of 7.95GB of data.
Therefore you can fit up to about 1 hour and 50 minutes of video onto the disc, even if you use a fancy menu, at the maximum permissible bitrate.
It may well be that your project duration is less than than that, or that you are encoding to mpeg2 at the default setting of 8000kps variable bitrate.
In the latter case, you might be able to raise the video bitrate to the maximum permitted by the DVD standard - although the benefit in picture quality may be hardly noticeable.
JVC GR-DV3000u Panasonic FZ8 VS 7SE Basic - X2
2Dogs, thanks for your prompt response to my first post!
I understand your statements concerning bit rate and such, but what really gets me is that no matter what type of video it is, bit rate, etc., even if the whole project were to be 2 hours of more long, the burn module always reduces it to a maximum of just about 6,446MB and does not make any use of the space that is still left in the DVD.
This is really my concern as I can always see a ring on the outer edge of about 1/4 inch that has not been used at all in the DVD.
It's not that I want to cram more video time than normally possible in each DVD, it just seems to me that from 6,446MB to the real limit of each DL DVD, I may be missing out on any possible improvement on the quality of video that might otherwise be there...
I'm always willing to take more input in this matter, still searching for answers.
I understand your statements concerning bit rate and such, but what really gets me is that no matter what type of video it is, bit rate, etc., even if the whole project were to be 2 hours of more long, the burn module always reduces it to a maximum of just about 6,446MB and does not make any use of the space that is still left in the DVD.
This is really my concern as I can always see a ring on the outer edge of about 1/4 inch that has not been used at all in the DVD.
It's not that I want to cram more video time than normally possible in each DVD, it just seems to me that from 6,446MB to the real limit of each DL DVD, I may be missing out on any possible improvement on the quality of video that might otherwise be there...
I'm always willing to take more input in this matter, still searching for answers.
Windows XP Pro, SP-2 w/all updates
P-4, 3.40E Prescott 1MB L2 Cache W/HT
2 GB Crucial Ballistix
DVD burners: Lite-On 20x Super All Write and Pioneer DVR-115D 20X
P-4, 3.40E Prescott 1MB L2 Cache W/HT
2 GB Crucial Ballistix
DVD burners: Lite-On 20x Super All Write and Pioneer DVR-115D 20X
I don't use DL discs as a rule, but it's possible that VS gives itself a bit of a margin of safety. Odd though, since the create disc step shows a maximum of 7.96GB usable on an 8.55GB DL disc.
If you really wanted to make use of the full capacity of the disc, I suggest you output to DVD folders instead, rather than to the disc.
Then burn the folders to the disc using your preferred burning software.
If you really wanted to make use of the full capacity of the disc, I suggest you output to DVD folders instead, rather than to the disc.
Then burn the folders to the disc using your preferred burning software.
JVC GR-DV3000u Panasonic FZ8 VS 7SE Basic - X2
I just finished outputting a test video project known to be over 2 hours long to a DVD folder and it still reduced the size more than it should have to just over 6GB.
I guess it doesn't really matter where you want the output since you still have to chose the size of the DVD in the burn module.
This is the reason I wanted to know id anyone knew of a way to trick the burn module into not trying to reduce the output to any specific DVD size when outputting to the hard drive.
For now, I'll just keep serching for a way around this brick wall since I really like the capabilities this programme has better than others in my system.
I guess it doesn't really matter where you want the output since you still have to chose the size of the DVD in the burn module.
This is the reason I wanted to know id anyone knew of a way to trick the burn module into not trying to reduce the output to any specific DVD size when outputting to the hard drive.
For now, I'll just keep serching for a way around this brick wall since I really like the capabilities this programme has better than others in my system.
Windows XP Pro, SP-2 w/all updates
P-4, 3.40E Prescott 1MB L2 Cache W/HT
2 GB Crucial Ballistix
DVD burners: Lite-On 20x Super All Write and Pioneer DVR-115D 20X
P-4, 3.40E Prescott 1MB L2 Cache W/HT
2 GB Crucial Ballistix
DVD burners: Lite-On 20x Super All Write and Pioneer DVR-115D 20X
The burning module doesn't work that way.
You control all the settings to encode, video/audio settings. The video/audio settings determine the file size of the video.
Depending on the source video you don't always want to use all the space on the DL DVD.
You should post the properties of your source videos, how you acquired them, converted them. Where did they come from. This is important because if they were originally encoded as mpeg2 video then increasing the video bit rate
about their original recording (produces a larger file size) will not produce a better quality video.
The burning module has a built-in feature that's activated ON by default. If your video is mpeg2 dvd compliant it will not be re-encoded again.
I think you should review video/audio bit-rates and quality settings for the mpeg2 dvd compliant formats and how VS works with them.
You control all the settings to encode, video/audio settings. The video/audio settings determine the file size of the video.
Depending on the source video you don't always want to use all the space on the DL DVD.
You should post the properties of your source videos, how you acquired them, converted them. Where did they come from. This is important because if they were originally encoded as mpeg2 video then increasing the video bit rate
about their original recording (produces a larger file size) will not produce a better quality video.
The burning module has a built-in feature that's activated ON by default. If your video is mpeg2 dvd compliant it will not be re-encoded again.
I think you should review video/audio bit-rates and quality settings for the mpeg2 dvd compliant formats and how VS works with them.
What project? Did you record your source videos from a DV camcorder, or one of the newer camcorder that write to an internal harddisk? What format is your camcorder recording in?It has been my observation that when I complete a project in VideoStudio and send it to the burn module to create a DL DVD, it fits the project fine,