VS12 released in Japan

babdi · Post by **babdi** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:51 pm

Wonder why Corel does not release version 12 simultaneously all over the world

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:40 pm

I guess someone has to be the guinea pig to iron out any bugs for us.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:57 pm

Yeah, right ...

(Do I hear, stage left, the guinea pig whistle of potential upgraders in the Western world...?

)

WestbrookNH · Post by **WestbrookNH** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:29 am

I have a dual-core AMD.

Does VS12 take advantage of multi-core processing as a technology, or is it vendor specific?

In other words, will the performance boost only be visible on dual-core Intel, or will AMD dual-core ownsers see the performance boost as well?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:24 pm

1) No one on this Board works for Corel/Ulead.

2) No one on this Board has yet (at least to my knowledge) actually seen or used a copy of VS12.

3) The last verson of VS which used beta testers from amongst our membership before its release was, I believe, VS10 (in other words, VS11/11+/11.5+, which has caused such chaos, was never tested by users before its release -- ditto with VS12...)

Please read the above as meaning that none of us here have any capacity at all to answer your question as to what or what not VS12 might do...

Post by **Ron P.** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:43 pm

WestbrookNH wrote:I have a dual-core AMD.

Does VS12 take advantage of multi-core processing as a technology, or is it vendor specific?

In other words, will the performance boost only be visible on dual-core Intel, or will AMD dual-core ownsers see the performance boost as well?

Please look at this post (in this thread), click on the bottom link in the post:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 026#151026

joosuna · Post by **joosuna** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:22 pm

Westbrook...try copying and pasting the below link to your browser. It is a some what rough translation of the Japanese Web page. A little difficult to understand exactly the translation...but you will get the gist of it

However, if you read Japanese...you can go directly to the web page and translate it for us...

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... %26hl%3Den

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:03 pm

Ken Berry wrote: 3) The last verson of VS which used beta testers from amongst our membership before its release was, I believe, VS10 (in other words, VS11/11+/11.5+, which has caused such chaos, was never tested by users before its release -- ditto with VS12...)

Yes, should be interesting.

WestbrookNH · Post by **WestbrookNH** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:27 am

Thanks guys.

I haven't had the opportunity to learn Japanese, yet, so I had to settle for the translated page. It was a little difficult to decipher, but I was able to get the gist of it.

From what I know about computers, I think that the ability to take advantage of multiple processors is provided by the OS. The application makes OS calls to direct the OS to execute processes and threads on specific or multiple CPUs. Basic load balancing is provided by the OS, but the App, which knows its requirements better than the OS, can improve performance with its own load balancing.

I know that a driver can direct interrupts to specific CPUs. The driver does not care whether the CPUs are Intel or AMD, but the performance boost from MP (Multi-Processor) depends upon the the speed and responsiveness of the CPU and glue logic, the load balancing algorithm, and whatever other processes or services are running in the background. Then there is the IO bottleneck to contend with.

Given all that, a 188% boost on dual core Intel silicon is quite impressive.

Long story short, I believe we can experience similar boosts in performance on AMD dual core.

Given the list of features and improvements, I'm really looking forward to playing in the VS12 sandbox.

DLA · Post by **DLA** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:46 pm

TBYB version is now available at http://www.ulead.co.jp/product/videostudio/trial.htm

I just downloaded and installed. Guess what my first try was, transition in the overlay and yes it works.

I can't wait for the release to happen in the rest of the world. In the mean time, I am learning Japanese!

Other things worth mentioning apart from what has been said before

1- A select all button in the DVD import window.

2- When editing title, a mode allow to make scroll bars appear in the preview window that makes editing long scrolling title so much easier.

3- A sliding bar in the library manager that allow you to control the size of the thumnails

4- Te possibility to disable the preview when rendering (hopefully this allow for faster rendering)

I will try to test later on if the smart render bug with MPEG-2 is gone.

EDIT: I also found something very interesting. When working in the timeline, if you take a clip let's say in the main track and you overlap it with another clip in the same track, VS automatically adds a transition. Same happens in the audio tracks. The same behavior as seen in MSP 8 (I don't know about previous version of MSP).

Definitely a no brainer, I will upgrade. Good work Corel

Post by **Ron P.** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:03 pm

Thanks for that insight DLA..

It does appear as if Corel has moved VS towards NLE's like MSP.

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:07 pm

Can't wait!!! Thanks DLA for that update!

Post by **Ken Berry** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:37 pm

When working in the timeline, if you take a clip let's say in the main track and you overlap it with another clip in the same track, VS automatically adds a transition.

If I understand you correctly, this is something that VS has done "since time immemorial" -- or at least VS 7, which is the version I started with, lo! these six or more years ago.... Of course, it required you to set the File > Preferences to automatically install a transition, but it has always worked for me ever since... Or was I imagining it????

DLA · Post by **DLA** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:57 pm

Ken Berry wrote:
When working in the timeline, if you take a clip let's say in the main track and you overlap it with another clip in the same track, VS automatically adds a transition.
If I understand you correctly, this is something that VS has done "since time immemorial" -- or at least VS 7, which is the version I started with, lo! these six or more years ago.... Of course, it required you to set the File > Preferences to automatically install a transition, but it has always worked for me ever since... Or was I imagining it????

I guess I was not clear enough for non MSP users. What you are talking about is the auto insertion of transitions set by the preference setting. What I am talking about is a timeline the same style as MSP where the transition will appear if you overlap 2 clips together. The more you overlap, the longer the transition is. You cannot do this with VS11 and previous.

A side note, it is not exactly as MSP, you cannot have gaps in the main track.

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