How many scenes are too much?

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:09 pm

How many scenes are too much?

When the audience starts to yawn.

bob733 · Post by **bob733** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:18 pm

They wont yawn on my video. In fact I ought to send you a copy as you were a lot of PM type help with me on it.

It actually turned out quite good.

Bob

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:15 pm

I'd love to see it Bob. If you want to upload it to Veoh I'll put it on the VS channel.

Barney1 · Post by **Barney1** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:09 pm

bob733 wrote:They wont yawn on my video. In fact I ought to send you a copy as you were a lot of PM type help with me on it.

It actually turned out quite good.

Bob

Bob,
I would like to see it as well.

Barney1 · Post by **Barney1** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:05 am

Black Lab wrote:The only issue I see is using Explorer to copy your project. Just open your original project in VS, then choose Save As and rename video2.vsp. Why make it more difficult than it needs to be?

Bob,

I can tell you this and I¡¦m not sure why, but once I have my original saved video1 and then I do a ¡§Save As¡¨ and call it video2 it is not the same size in windows explorer. I have to close VS open it back up, open the video2 project and then just do a save and the file size is now the same.

alanball · Post by **alanball** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:34 pm

Hi Guy's,

hope you dont mind if I but in here, I was intersted in what Bob had to say about splitting the project up into various VSP files. I have just done the same on a project I am working on but I was wondering if there would be a reduction in the final quality of output file. I am not sure whether VS does a separate render for each VSP file and so having a render of a render of a render ie 3 VPS files, or if the hole project is renderd only once.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:30 am

By splitting a project up into separate VSP files you are not losing quality because the VSP files are simply lists of instructions - nothing has actually been rendered yet. I agree that breaking a large product up into smaller manageable parts is good practice. When all of the parts have been completed you then place all the VSP (instruction) files together as one and then render your DVD compliant MPEG2 = the video has only been rendered once.

Regarding Trevor Andrews preference of creating a DV AVI file first rather than a DVD compliant MPEG2 file. This depends upon what you intend to do with your video. If you are going to create a DVD Video Disc then that "DV AVI" file will need converting again to MPEG2 so you simply waste time with an unnecessary step. If on the other hand you intend to archive the edited video perhaps back to DV tape then yes it is desirable to create a DV "AVI" file.
Having created such a DV "AVI" file for archiving then you can use that file to render out the MPEG2 for your Video DVD and in fact it might even be quicker creating the MPEG2 from that new "AVI" file than from the VSP.
The DV file is considered lossless and so it is acceptable for the second render to be carried out.

alanball · Post by **alanball** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:07 am

Hi Steve,

thanks I always appreciate your input.

Regards

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:34 pm

sjj1805 wrote:By splitting a project up into separate VSP files you are not losing quality because the VSP files are simply lists of instructions - nothing has actually been rendered yet. I agree that breaking a large product up into smaller manageable parts is good practice. When all of the parts have been completed you then place all the VSP (instruction) files together as one and then render your DVD compliant MPEG2 = the video has only been rendered once.

I agree Steve, it shouldn't lose quality but I tried doing the nested VSPs once and did have quality issues. That's why I always recommend rendering to a new video file and inserting that into another project.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:40 am

This is why I always say find a method that works for you.
Computers are complicated things and I have always had the opinion that if you buy two identical computers and install identical software on both that they will still have their own idiosyncrasies.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:58 am

I'll agree with that.