its a synch problem!

[tog]

Hi All

I am a new VS user - 11+

This is the first dv editor I have used other than cobbling a couple of clips together in Windows Movie Maker.

I am running an XP SP2 pc with 3gb ram and loads of 7200rpm disc space. I am using a Panasonic 160 - mini dvd, camera and an old Canon 800i dv camera.

I can capture video ok but still haven't found how you create different libraries - having captured a stack of clips to a single library how do I split them up into say three different libraries? Is there any good reason why I should not rename the clips from their currently meaningless numerical id to something a little more easy to identify?

I am struggling with 11+ but I am getting there and now I have found the tutorials here I hope things will get easier!

Here is the real problem that i have at the moment and have been unable to solve so far.

I have a sound track - a piece of music. I have a dozen clips of video which I have captured from mini dvd, so far so good.

I am trying to make a spoof pop video. I have imported the audio track which I am using as a constant ie it runs all the way through the project without stopping, start to finish and the clips of video (with the audio muted) are then cut together in the video track - easy peasy! The first two clips are abstract and I can make them as long or short as I want.

Now for the third clip which is causing me so much grief. It is a ten second sequence of my son lipsynching to the pop song (can be heard in the background until I mute the videos audio but it makes it easy to spot if there is a different speed issue with the audio and video tracks).

What I am trying to do is to tie one frame of video to a specific point of the audio track so that it looks like he is singing the words. I can line them up pretty close and there is no problem with them wandering out of synch due to playing at slightly different speeds - which seems to be the problem that other people have. Thing is that I need to lock the two starting points together so that they stay synch'ed together.

I always thought this was a key frame thing where you could mark the two items and they would stay together - seems key frames refer to video effects.

So is there a way of linking the two points together?

Just to add to the fun the fourth clip is abstract and the fifth clip is back to lip synching again and I have to tie the video and audio together again.

I have aligned the clips and audio together in the time line but of course if I find I need to make a change to the clip or change a transition etc my home made synch falls apart. I have 20 plus clips to lash together and every third or fourth one involves a short piece of lipsynching - nightmare!

I have looked around in VS11+ but can't find anything obvious that will do what i want it to do and I have searched around the forums but without finding anything obvious.

I realise that this may be a rather ambitious project to kick off with but I am under a certain amount of 'domestic pressure' to get this done as part of my sons school project - he did the storyboard, shot the video clips and has overall artistic control - dad is just the whipping boy who has to make it all work :o(


All help (with the video issues) greatfully accepted - I know what I should do about the domestic issues ;o)



regards



tog

[Black Lab]

Hi All

I am a new VS user - 11+

This is the first dv editor I have used other than cobbling a couple of clips together in Windows Movie Maker.

I am running an XP SP2 pc with 3gb ram and loads of 7200rpm disc space. I am using a Panasonic 160 - mini dvd, camera and an old Canon 800i dv camera.

I can capture video ok but still haven't found how you create different libraries - having captured a stack of clips to a single library how do I split them up into say three different libraries? Is there any good reason why I should not rename the clips from their currently meaningless numerical id to something a little more easy to identify?
You either have to capture your clips to a particular library (by opening that library before capturing starts) or you can simply copy and paste them from one library to another.

There's no reason why you can't rename the clips.

I am struggling with 11+ but I am getting there and now I have found the tutorials here I hope things will get easier!

Here is the real problem that i have at the moment and have been unable to solve so far.

I have a sound track - a piece of music. I have a dozen clips of video which I have captured from mini dvd, so far so good.

I am trying to make a spoof pop video. I have imported the audio track which I am using as a constant ie it runs all the way through the project without stopping, start to finish and the clips of video (with the audio muted) are then cut together in the video track - easy peasy! The first two clips are abstract and I can make them as long or short as I want.

Now for the third clip which is causing me so much grief. It is a ten second sequence of my son lipsynching to the pop song (can be heard in the background until I mute the videos audio but it makes it easy to spot if there is a different speed issue with the audio and video tracks).

What I am trying to do is to tie one frame of video to a specific point of the audio track so that it looks like he is singing the words. I can line them up pretty close and there is no problem with them wandering out of synch due to playing at slightly different speeds - which seems to be the problem that other people have. Thing is that I need to lock the two starting points together so that they stay synch'ed together.

I always thought this was a key frame thing where you could mark the two items and they would stay together - seems key frames refer to video effects.

So is there a way of linking the two points together?
You must enable Ripple Editing.

Just to add to the fun the fourth clip is abstract and the fifth clip is back to lip synching again and I have to tie the video and audio together again.

I have aligned the clips and audio together in the time line but of course if I find I need to make a change to the clip or change a transition etc my home made synch falls apart. I have 20 plus clips to lash together and every third or fourth one involves a short piece of lipsynching - nightmare!

I have looked around in VS11+ but can't find anything obvious that will do what i want it to do and I have searched around the forums but without finding anything obvious.

I realise that this may be a rather ambitious project to kick off with but I am under a certain amount of 'domestic pressure' to get this done as part of my sons school project - he did the storyboard, shot the video clips and has overall artistic control - dad is just the whipping boy who has to make it all work (
You are right. Probably a little ambitious for your first one, but you have to start somewhere!


All help (with the video issues) greatfully accepted - I know what I should do about the domestic issues ;o)
Can't help you there.



regards



tog

[tog]

Thanks for the reply.

If I rename clips that have already been used - will that cause a problem? Is VS smart enough to know that a clip on th etime line has had its name changed in the library or should any renaming be done before using the clip?

I wasn't sure what ripple editing is - still not entirely sure , and I thought that I had it enabled - I'll have to check.

Is there a tutorial anywhere here that explains how ripple editing works?



regards


Tog

[Black Lab]

The clips in the library are just virtual, and merely point to where they reside on your HD. Renaming the library clips would not cause problems. Renaming the actual clips (stored in your working folder) would cause a need to re-link them.

Ripple Editing tutorial: http://www.takeoneflix.com/ulead-videos ... e-editing/

[tog]

Thanks for the reply, I was concerned that if you changed the clips name the link between the original file and the clip may be broken.

I have just been and watched the ripple editing tutorial - thanks for the link. I now understand the way ripple editing is used - in the tutorial at least!
I am having trouble getting my head around where exactly the ripple editing will start and finish. When you enable RE does it begin from the insertion point selected when you enabled RE or does it start from 00.00.00 of your project? If it is from the insertion point, does that mean it runs until such time as you switch it off by selecting an insertion point and then disabling RE so that you can then select another insertion point to re enable RE and thus tie a second point together. This would mean that you would then have to edit the length of the video clips on your time line to fit into the space between the two RE enabling points or have I missed the point somewhere?

I think I need to download a free copy of VS onto my work PC so I can go and take a look at RE in use - I can't wait to get home tonight to have a look !

Once again

Thanks for the pointers


regards


Tog