Clipped clips

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Hi again

VS 11.5.0157.1 Plus (11.5 Plus) Cab MD 101

Following your kind responses to my query regarding voice over, I now need to ask another question.

Having struggled with left and right square brackets to trim video clips in Movie Wizard - not at all straightforward!!, I found that I could more easily use the scissors process to trim clips in Video Studio Editor.

My query is that after much effort to achieve a result, I was unable to save the trimmed clips in the video clip file format. whatever that is. They were stuck in the library under their original filenames, as far as I could see. Incidentally, what are the various video clip file formats please?

Moreover, I would have liked to have saved the trimmed clips as, say; Bapt_1, Bapt_2 and so on to make it easier to arrange the trimmed clips on the timeline. It is a slide show/video of our first grandchild's baptism.

I do this sort of thing quite easily when converting from Digital Still Camera Raw files to Psd and then Jpeg, or whatever, in Photosop CS2 with no problem. Thus an image becomes: Camera Image Number + a short description of the image.psd, or .tif or .jPeg.

There does not appear to be a list of file types in the VS 11 manual.

The query response for my 71st birthday was amazing as was my champagne and lobster birthday supper this evening. It's not so bad getting old, you know!

warmest regards

grif

[Clevo]

If I read you correctly there are a couple fo ways to accomplish this. Pardon if I am not detailed I am writing this from work and can't look at VS while I try and explain. It looks like you know your way around all the buttons so here it goes.

In your library there is probably one long video file of everything you captured.

What I like to do is click on the "split by scene" and the video on the timeline is "cut" at each scene change in order of how it appears in the timeline.

Keep in mind these are not individual video files. These are representative instructions of what to show from the same long original video file.

To see this...click on a clip on the timeline and you will see under the preview pane the little dark blue bit highlighted out of the long file.

I either work from here and do further trims and cuts as I move along to the right, adding transitions and making notes about sound changes, overlaps and what kind of music to add later on (mood notes rough timecode)

The other way to permanently cut scenes is to use "multi Trim" I've only used this a few times as the above work flow works for me but if you want permanent individual video files of scenes this is the way to do it.

Basically, click on multi trim, make cuts as you move along the video and choose the save option that suits you. Memory of the exact wording fails me at the moment.

But I think that's what you want.

Renaming files. Once you move a clip to the library I believe you can rename it. I generally don;t bother if I include thumbnail view because I just remember the video from the first frame.

Hope that helps

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Hi

Thanks for your prompt and helpful response Clevo, from where you are, I must have read your reply before you wrote it!!! I've got a cousin in Sidney both of you a long way from the UK.

You've cleared up a number of things including me intuitively thinking that the scissors procedure left the material before and after the clipped clip "intact". It seems therefore that if I take more than one clipped clip then there as many unclipped clips as there are clipped clips. Perhaps that is why it took around 150 mins to obtain a DVD, in the preliminary stages I do use R/W DVD sadly only at 4X, I think I've spotted some 10x R/W DVDs, although, I seem to have noted, that the burning takes but a relatively very short time. I did stop and start the camera throughout the baptismal service and at the reception afterwards, giving me many clips to clip, some as multi-clipped clips. Hand held camcording leaves a lot to be desired.

I have used the alternative you mention in Movie Wizard, as I recall, but the process appeared so convoluted that I welcomed the scissors options. As I read elsewhere, whilst Left square bracket works well, the right square bracket is not so reliable (same applies to the alternative function keys option). Further, the inverting and so on causes real confusion. To be honest I've not tried it in VS Editor, only in Movie Wizard. I'm now beginning to realise that I can do most things in VS Editor. There's a lot to learn.

Thanks again. I'll now study your suggestions carefully and try and put them into operation. Although, with my way of working in CS2, I would like to be able to save the individual clipped clips in an alternative named user directory/folder.

warmest regards

grif

[Black Lab]

Please read From Camcorder to DVD - Editing Phase: http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=15150

[2Dogs]

, in the preliminary stages I do use R/W DVD sadly only at 4X, I think I've spotted some 10x R/W DVDs, although, I seem to have noted, that the burning takes but a relatively very short time.

Hi Grif,

I presume that by "preliminary stages" you are burning the first copy of your project to a DVD-RW or DVD+RW disc, just to test the disc to confirm that everything is as it should be.

Some of us do that, although an alternative approach is to output the project to DVD folders instead of burning to disc. Then you can check the project by playing it on your pc before burning a bunch of discs for distribution to friends and relatives.

Some set top or "standalone" DVD players can be picky with re-writable media.

Re-writable media tends to give much poorer results (in terms of burn quality) than single write media such as DVD+R or DVD-R and the discs also degrade after a certain amount of usage, so I trust that the copies you give to the doting parents and other interested parties are burned to DVD-R or DVD+R. These are commonly available in 16x speed, which can take around 5 minutes to burn for a single layer disc.

For best results, use premium grade blank media, such as Taiyo Yuden 8x or 16x DVD+R or DVD-R, made in Japan, usually only available online. Avoid cheap off-brand or unbranded media, and try to find reputable media that is known to be compatible with your burner.

Although you are a "Grey Panther", being in the UK means that there is quite a wide range of inkjet printers available that can print directly on suitable DVD blank media. Another nice touch is to distribute the copies in those larger grey plastic cases, which have a clear sleeve under which you can slip a printed "cover" - far nicer than the usual "jewel" case.

Here in the US, the Motion Picture Association of America has such a strong lobby that there are few such printers available - indeed many models have the DVD slot blanked off. The MPAA cannot conceive of a legitimate use for home user printed discs, and so similar projects to yours over here generally end up with the disc marked with a Sharpie.

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Hi

Thanks 2Dogs. I take your point.

I use R/W only to see what the outcome is. Early on I wasted quite a few Write once DVDs. From what you say R/W could account for some blips I've experienced when playing R/W on our DVD/TV set up. Once I'm satisfied, the "film"/slideshow goes onto write once DVDs as there are quite a few to distribute.

I'm unaware of the DVD names you mentioned but I'll keep an eye and ear open. I remember floppy discs and CDs where, in the main, all the problem discs were those from re-nowned labels (usually one per pack of ten) whereas those from non-identified sources never gave any trouble.

We have a similar problem in the UK where the government seems to cave in to big business on most issues.

I'm using a 5 year old Epson 1290 and am shortly hoping to upgrade to a printer with prints having a longer promised life. When doing family genealogy I'm reading stuff, often in pencil, many hundreds of years old. If the world lasts long enough, then I'm hoping that my efforts will be readable hundreds of years hence. We've made a start with a grandson so let us hope there will be sufficient generations.

warmest regards 2 Dogs

grif the grey panther but no leverage noticed to date!

[2Dogs]

Hi Grif,

glad you took no offense at the "Grey Panther" moniker!

If it's archival quality you're looking for in the DVD's, then I would strongly recommend using Taiyo Yuden premium grade media. They claim better longevity than most. I think prices in the UK may be a little higher than here in the US, but here are links to a couple of UK online sources you might check out.

http://svp.co.uk/products-list.php?bid=29

http://shop.cd-writer.com/acatalog/ALL_ ... D_466.html

I find that my Samsung burner gives the best results to the Taiyo Yuden media I've tried thus far.

Some other manufacturers make discs specifically aimed at the medical community, with an emphasis on longevity. We won't be around to know though, will we!

I've never owned an Epson printer, but some of the more recent ones have a nasty feature whereby when you refill the cartridges, they behave as if they're still empty. I managed to find a "chip resetter" for about $10 over here which fixed the problem for my brother's Epson printer, allowing him to refill the cartridges as normal, obviously saving a ton of money in the process.

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Thanks again 2 Dogs

Yes, I've had that problem, even genuine Epson cartridges say they're empty. I have a resetter which is useful for "restarting" the printer when the ink gets low and there is a trick with "sellotape" over the cartridge contact points to re-enable the contents graphic but unfortunately, I've lost the article which was in one of the magazines some years ago. Even when printing in monchrome, the colour cartidge seems to go down as the black cartridge goes down as inidated by the ink level indicators when they were working.

Can't remember which, but either HP or Epson are promising 200 years + with their new pigment inks.

Thanks for the links

My wife keeps on reminding me of the power of the Grey Panthers, but we've not benefitted yet. Although musn't complain as the NHS is looking after me very well.

regards

grif