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Black Lab wrote:Please read the following: http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... ht=easycap

I found it by doing a Search for EasyCap.:? There are plenty of other threads that might help you.
I can tell you with some certainty that if that guy loaded the software, hooked it up then tried to capture, his input is defaulted to PAL and he won't see anything. Too bad no one suggested where to find his configuration settings in VS. That was Sept of '07 so I bet he has moved on by now.

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Post by GuyL »

I would first try and insert the file into windows movie maker and see if you can make edits in there. That would remove VS from the equation. If you have similar results in WMM then we VS isn't at fault.

I'm not surprised that the message is coming up because the file properties - especially the frame rate is not a standard rate. That may be what is confusing the editor.
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Too bad no one suggested where to find his configuration settings in VS. That was Sept of '07 so I bet he has moved on by now.
So in the VS10 Capture page, select 'Capture Video', and wait while Video Studio tries to see what devices it can capture from. Regardless of what appears, change the Format (middle right of screen) to MPEG. Then go to the Tools menu (top left of screen) and select Change Capture Plug-In. In the drop down menu which appears, select Ulead DSW MPEG Capture Plug-in if it has not already been selected when you changed the capture format to mpeg. Now see if you can capture anything...


Did your version of VS come with the EasyCap?
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Did your version of VS come with the EasyCap?
Yes it did.
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So it is an SE version. That means it is not a full version of VS. If it came with your EasyCap than it has been tweaked by the makers of EasyCap to work with it.

Since that is the case, and the fact that the EasyCap is changing the frame rate that you set, I think this is an EasyCap issue that is affecting VS. I don't know that anyone here can definitively say what the problem might be since the software has most likely been modified (as you can see by the number of guesses already).

Also, your system information is not filled in so we don't know what OS you are running. If it is Vista you should know that v10 would not work properly without a patch. Unfortunately, you can't patch an SE version (to the best of my knowledge).
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Post by skier-hughes »

dglenn1 wrote:
USB devices are selfish, stingy things, they do not like to share.

Absolutely no help at all there. Don't even know what to do with that.
Only have one usb device connected - your capture device.
USB well, it just does not work for capturing video very well at all.
In what way? Low quality? often only providing capture in low quality formats, as the bandidth is not high enough to cope with the constant stream of info sent when capturing to high quality formats. Picture loss? Maybe, maybe dropped frames. Sound sync issues? Not likely if you can capture as dv.avi - most likely loss of both video and audio, but if you can only capture as a compressed file such as mpeg, then yes AV sync issues are common. Have you ever seen it cause what I am experiencing? NO, I have a canopus nx express card which is of a very high quality, but I do spend my spare time answering these questions day in day out, as do all the other regulars here I am awarded my Microsoft MVP status for the quality of help I give to people using MS software.
...bandwidth available is chopped down...
Resulting in ... ?????? If the bandwidth is lowered then the file cannot travel down the wires at a fast enough rate so you get dropped frames, corrupt files, low quality, stopped capture.
...leaving your video transfer ... with not enough.
Not enough what?????

Honestly, do really think these comments address the issue at all? Am I supposed to glean from these generalizations about USB connectivity an approach to solve a problem where a video captures, views, but doesn't edit? The connection is not clear to me. The captured file may be corrupt, as above. Editing is much more demanding than viewing. The file may be of the wrong sort for the settings you have.....

When I preview the capture or view it in Media Player or Windows Movie maker - DOES MOVIE MAKER EDIT THE FILE? if so, then we can look at why VS doesn't. it appears to be a high quality clip with great sound and very little loss from the source. It just won't go into edit in VS. Can you help me make the leap in logic that says the problem lies in the capture device?? or the compression codec?? or my keyboard fighting for the attention of the USB port?? It seems if these were the problems it wouldn't capture at all or at least have some very poor quality or other visible problem. I have made it clear that I am doing the capture inside of VS using EasyCAP as the interface device correct? It looks to me that VS can't read it's own writing.

I don't mean to appear obstinate here, but I'm looking for deeper clues on how to track down what is wrong with my situation.
We need to rule out things to work toa problem that is deeper than changing setting a to b, so what may appear to be to you awkward or inane questions are in fact trying to lead us to your solution, so if you could bvear with teh qeustions, do what is asked in the way of testing etc, we will try our best to get that solution.
Perhaps someone could share a setup that does work? Codec, settings etc. or offer some deeper insight as to how VS interacts with the devices I have or between its different modes to help me understand what to try next?
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Post by dglenn1 »

Thanks for providing some solid info. Yes the video edits in Movie Maker.

I also downloaded the trial version of VS 11+ and it edits in there as well. However, I can't get 11+ to recognized the capture device!?! It's always something.

Any next steps? Dan
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Post by GuyL »

Sounds like the device manufacturer didn't do a very good job tweaking the SE version, eh?

Is it possible to return the device?
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Post by Black Lab »

Any next steps?
Yes! Contact the makers of the EasyCap. It is their issue.

Or purchase the full v11.
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Post by skier-hughes »

If the trial version from Ulead works then I'm with the above two replies in that Easycap have probably made a hash of the SE version.
These versions are made to work with the hardware they are supplied with, so are not true Ulead versions.

What happens if you save the Movie Maker edited version as a dv.avi and import this into yor version of VS?
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Post by Ranger J »

just to confirm - I am experiencing the same problems with my Easy Cap - VS SE software.
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