VIDEO STUDIO 10 JERKY TITLES AND PANNING

[plop]

Hi,i hope again you clever people can help,i have completed my movie etc
burnt to disc when played back titles are jerky and so is any panning shots using panning effects.

i have tryed using different discs,different burner about every setting i can think of,when previewing my work it is jerky but i put this down to graphics card,but as i say final burn and playback is just unaceptable
any advise(apart from go away) would be appreciated
thank you David

[skier-hughes]

I'd start at the beginning, you say your preview is jerky, so lets see if it's this that is causing you grief.
Can you fill in your system profile so we can see if it's your pc that's a problem.
Have you got the latest drivers installed for your graphics card?

Then tell us;
What your imported file types are and their properties.
What your project settings are
What your output settngs are

[Ken Berry]

Just to expand a little on skier-hughes comments, to get the file properties, right click on them within Video Studio -- either in the timeline or in the library pane -- and copy ALL of the Properties here. We are in particularly interested to know what the original Field Order of the video might have been (e.g. Upper Field First or Lower Field First). Whatever it is, that has to be kept exactly the same in both the project settings and in the final output settings.

The type of jerkiness you describe, particularly in panning shots, is usually caused by changing the Field Order of the video. That is why it is very important, for example, if your original video is Upper Field First, that you also use Upper Field First in the project settings, and in your output settings.

The other thing which you have to avoid is mixing video with different Field Orders in the same project. In other words, you cannot have video which is Upper Field First as well as Lower Field First clips in the same project. Depending on your output settings, one or the other will appear jerky in the final DVD.

[plop]

Many thanks for responses,i have done some further investigations and it appears these frame upper lower are all a wrong,i cant seem to right click and send you all of the project but i can find properties of each video etc,my main videos are mpeg-2 upper field first,some videos are mpeg1 and dont say upper or lower and i also use stiils,my settings are lower field first and my outut settings are frame based,which now has got very confusing,the whole project is 23 mins or so about 1.2gb ,,,if i can send more info please tell me how.
Many many Thanks David

[Black Lab]

Well that's your problem.

If your MPEG2 clips are Upper Field then that is what your project and output settings need to be.

Where did you get the MPEG1 files?

[plop]

No its not!, o dear back to square one again,thanks for reply,
i have in fact changed all these settings,if anything the video looks slightly smoother but still images with panning on are really quite bad and jerky,i am at a real loss now?
Kind Regards David

ps my mpeg 1 files are clips cut from dvds etc only 2 of them

[Black Lab]

Ok. Please post ALL the properties (third request) of your clips (all types, including still images), project, and output.

Also, you still haven't filled in your system profile.

[skier-hughes]

but still images with panning on are really quite bad and jerky,

ps my mpeg 1 files are clips cut from dvds etc only 2 of them

Still guessing in the dark as we haven't been given the info requested, so I'd say your stills are too low resolution to enable you to pan and zoom through them.

Why rip a dvd to mpeg1? It would be easier to take mpeg2 from them as this is what they are - assuming it is a dvd-video not a data dvd.

[plop]

Hi , i really dont know how to send you all the properties,as i followed your instructions by right clicking but i can only click on a pacific clip to give you these properties of that clip.i am missing something.

just to tell you about still images they are nice and bright and are about 5meg in size.

Many Thanks David

[Black Lab]

You don't need to tell us the properties of every single clip, just the properties for each different kind you have in your project: MPEG1, MPEG2, and your images.

Right click on an MPEG2 clip and choose properties. You can't copy and paste that info on this forum. Just type that info here.

Do the same for the MPEG1 clip.

Do the same for the still image clip.

Go to File>Project Properties and record that info here.

When you go to burn your project (Share>Create Disc) you will see a cogwheel icon in the lower left. There you will find the output properties. Record that info here.

[plop]

Ok here i go,
still picture ,rgb color (24bit) w=2272 pixels res=28 pixels/cm
h=1704 size 11,342kb
format jpeg file interchange jpeg compression size 1,921kb
ANOTHER PICTURE
rgb 24 bit,w=720 pixels res 37 pixels/cm
h=576 size 1,215kb
windows bitmap,no compression,size 1,215k

clip=
mpeg-2,143,318kb,128.160 seconds,mpeg-2 video upper field first,
3,204 frames
24 bits 720x576 16.9,25 frames/sec,data rate 8500kbps
about 12 of these

only one of mpeg1 video,1,974 file size,11.360 secs,284 frames,24 bits 352x288,data rate 1150kbps.



IN PROJECT PROPERTIES
file size 4.3mb,version 10,duration 00.23.23.00,edit file format mpeg files,pal25fps,24 bits,720x576 25fps,upper field first,mpeg2 16.9
perform non-square pixel ()ticked)

IN BURN MENU ON COG WHEEL,
SETTINGS
mpeg files,24 bits 720x576 ,25fps,frame based!!!!,dvd-pal 4.3!!!!!!,videodata rate variable max 7000kbps,audio rate 256kbs
dolby 48knz 2/0 l/r

do not covert compliant mpeg is ticked.

....................................however if i change burn outputs to match project it start to do detailled process and stops at 6percent i assumed that when i changed these setting it worked ok as it crashed at 6 percent so i restarted and burnt disc but found old settings still there,i said that looked better No it does not,
i cant save these new settings.
i hope this all helps
Thanking you DAVID

[Ken Berry]

OK. Your mpeg-2 properties look fine, though you haven't given the data rate for the Project Properties (nor the audio used in either). But essentially the data rate of the mpeg-2 of 8500 kbps is high quality and still allows you to use any of the DVD audio formats (LPCM, AC-3 or mpeg layer 2) and fit within the DVD specification limits.

But once you put everything together on the timeline, the mpeg-2, the JPEGs and mpeg-1, you should first convert that all to DVD compliant mpeg-2 before you go anywhere near the burning module. I suspect that instead, after you put everything in the timeline and do any editing, you are jumping straight to the burning module and this in effect uses your project file. That is why it is converting in the burning module (quite apart from the burning module settings... But let's forget about them for the moment...)

Anyway, with your edited project in the timeline, and all your editing finished, you select Share > Create Video File > Same as Project Settings (and NOT Share > Create Disc). You give the new file a name and press OK and the conversion will begin. Since most of it is already DVD compliant mpeg-2, you could make sure SmartRender is enabled. That means that except around editing, cuts, transitions etc, the mpeg-2 in your project will not be re-rendered.

(Note that if you play back the new mpeg-2 when the conversion is finished and you find the audio has gone out of sync with the video, then you should do it all again, but this time with SmartRender disabled.)

Note also that after you produce your new mpeg-2, you go to File > New Project. Don't worry about giving your new project a name. The objective is just to clear the timeline of your current project.

Once that is done, you select Share > Create Disc > DVD. The burning module will open. Use the Add Media button at the top to insert your new mpeg-2 in the burning timeline. Make sure the 'Do not convert compliant mpeg files' box is ticked (as you say it was). That way, your already compliant mpeg file will not be re-encoded. You can thus ignore the properties in the window above that which set out the burning properties used if conversion takes place in the burning module (which it won't be in this case.) Then build your menus and burn.

[plop]

Many Thanks Mr Ken,yes followed all steps above to the letter,works without jerky business,there are a few frames that get missed but miles better than before,
However the overall quality is not as good as the way i did it before.
i noticed original file was 1.23gb when burnt this way was 820mb the quality of a video clip is not as clear as was.
any suggestions on this.
i may have posted this twice?

many thanks
David

[plop]

Any more help would be gratefull
Many Thanks
David