Capture problem

ponderingpoidog · Post by **ponderingpoidog** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:23 pm

New to VideoStudio 11. Trying to capture. Keep getting the message: "Capturing Failed. The file created is corrupt and unuseable. It will be automaticlly deleted.
What am I doing wrong? Help!

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:33 pm

Welcome to the Board. We need a lot more information. You haven't told us anything apart from the version of Video Studio you are using and that you get this message. WE have no idea of what type of video you are trying to capture or how you are trying to do so. Please read the top sticky post on this Board which says "Please read this before posting" -- http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 1454#41454 . Then come back with the information and someone may be able to help.

ponderingpoidog · Post by **ponderingpoidog** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:38 pm

Sony DV to Dell Laptop with Firewire. I don't know the other info.

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:00 pm

Can you capture with movie maker, assuming you are running a windows version like ME, XP or Vista.

ponderingpoidog · Post by **ponderingpoidog** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:12 pm

I am running XP, but I can't find movie maker.

ponderingpoidog · Post by **ponderingpoidog** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:00 pm

The capture runs for about 8-10 seconds and then fails. Anyone???

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:38 pm

Can you confirm that you are simply playing a mini DV cassette in the Sony and trying to capture that? Or are you using the Sony as a passthrough device i.e. you have it connected via AV to an analogue camera or VCR, and the analogue signal passes through the Sony, which converts it to DV for transmission to the computer via Firewire?

I ask this because VS11 by itself had a bug which would not allow it to be used for passthrough capture of analogue source material. (VS11 uses a new capture plug-in which is compatible with Vista, but caused a lot of trouble with analogue capture.) It was mostly fixed with the 6 November 2007 patch available on the Ulead-com website.

ponderingpoidog · Post by **ponderingpoidog** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:46 am

8MM tape in a Hi8 "Digital" camera. Going direct to computer via firewire. Is the fact that it is not digital all the way through my problem? Thanks for your help.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:45 am

Yes, there is a bug in VS11 which will not permit you to capture from an analogue 8mm (or Hi8) tape played in a Digital 8 camera connected via Firewire to the computer. I too have a Sony Digital 8 camera, and believe me, I know about this bug!

Previous versions of Video Studio could do it, but as I say, they changed the capture plug-in in VS11, and this was the cause of the problem.

In fact, as I said, with the original VS11, the bug would not allow capture of any analogue source material as long as the capture device was connected via firewire. So it affected (1) Sony Digital 8s playing analogue tapes; (2) mini DV and Sony Digital 8s being used as a passthrough device from an analogue camera or VCR; and (3) external capture devices capturing from an analogue source but with the device connected via firewire to the computer. The 6 November patch fixed the passthrough problem (2) for both mini DVs and Digital 8s, and some devices in category (3) now work, though some don't. However, category (1) was NOT fixed!!

Your alternatives are to use Windows Movie Maker to capture in DV format from the digital 8 and then open in VS for editing (and believe me, Movie Maker should be there! It is installed as part of Windows.) Or else, download a small freeware program called WinDV which only captures DV via firewire, but does it well. You can get it at windv.mourek.cz Again, you capture in DV format in WinDV, then simply open the captured files for editing in VS11.

ponderingpoidog · Post by **ponderingpoidog** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:43 am

Outstanding! Thank you so much for all your assitance on this matter. It is greatly appreciated!

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:40 am

For your info, movie maker
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/ProblemP ... ingSP2.htm

Also, I do assume you mean a digital 8 camcorder, as Hi8 models didn't have a dv connection, still being analogue.
This signal should be a pure dv signal, converted inside the cam, so I'm not sure it will cause teh error.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:39 pm

This signal should be a pure dv signal, converted inside the cam, so I'm not sure it will cause the error.

Graham -- not sure what you mean by this. If it is indeed a Digital 8 camera and capable of playing back analogue 8mm/Hi8 tapes directly (let alone be used as a passthrough camera) via firewire, it is precisely those conditions which invoke the bug. It is not just me who suffered (and continue to suffer) from it. Corel indeed recognised there was a bug and issued the 6 November patch but unfortunately it did not/not correct this aspect of it.

skier-hughes · Post by **skier-hughes** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:48 pm

I may be wrong, but I thought that the cam's internal electronics processed the analogue tape differently to pass through, so playing an analogue tape inside a D8 cam was an identical output to a D8 tape, (pure dv)

Whereas pass through went through a different set of electronics and it was this that caused the problem.

I must say, I don't use VS and have never had the problem, so although my knwoledge is being extrapolated in the direction I'm saying, I will bow down to Ken's far superior knoweldge in this area

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:59 pm

You are probably quite correct about the electronic paths used, I simply don't know enough about that side of things. All I know is that -- like Ron (vidoman) and other users -- I have a Sony Digital 8 which could play analogue tapes directly and send a DV signal via firewire to the computer for capture, and this worked perfectly well with VS10 and prior versions, but does not with VS11/11.5. The 6 November patch allows the Digital 8 to be used as pass-through with VS11/11.5, but not for direct playing of analogue tapes. However, your explanation may indeed be the reason for this mismatch -- namely, that the patch only enabled one electronic path to be used, but not the other...

In a sense, it is all moot anyway as I can still happily capture from the Digital 8 playing analogue tapes using WinDV and a variety of other programs, including previous versions of VS...