If you use Avidemux2 and load the file (you have to answer "Yes" and have it indexed) then goto the Histogram and look at the highest average bit-rate.
The test file you sent me displayed about 14,555mbs as the highest average bit rate.
Something is up with the way your program is capturing the video and re-packetizing the video into a TS stream.
If you say that using the file thats' re-muxed into a m2ts container (and not re-encoded), then reloaded and exported to standard definition works then I think it's the way the original TS stream is packetized.
Even though the test video you sent was @ 18 seconds some convertors would only convert 8 sec's of the video to SD. Other players when playing the file back displayed the wrong time information saying the playing time was about 30 seconds or so.
There's another program I haven't tried yet, it's rather old but was written to correct broadcast captures similar to yours. It's called Remux or RemuxTS. I have it and later on going to see what it comes up with.
Unacceptable transport stream encoding errors
etech6355,
Thank you very much for taking a look at the test video.
I let DMF6+ encode a 5 minute long transport stream file that had not yet been edited or touched by VideoReDo. Notably, the DMF6+ SD MPEG2 encode still had several noticeable glitches identical in nature to the ones observed when using the shorter edited files, although the errors were not quite as frequent. So, you're probably right that there is something about the way that the CapDVHS utility captures and re-packetizes the HD video into a transport stream. Apparently, running Quick Stream Fix in VideoReDo does not fix the problem, but VideoReDo does not seem to be the originator of the problem, either. Using CapDVHS to capture HD transport streams is the most common method for getting unencrypted content off of the Motorola DVR, so it's really a shame that DMF6+ cannot handle the TS files correctly, even though VideoReDo and SVCD2DVD seem to have no problem with them, as I've never seen such obvious visible glitches with those apps.
I have only found VLC Media Player to do a good job of playing back TS files. Many other players don't play back smoothly, don't report the correct time information, or don't play at all. For very large TS files of several gigs, sometimes VLC cannot display the time info, either.
I used Avidemux2 to compare the TS and PS versions of the same clip using the Histogram tool, and the data rates seem nearly identical. Thank you for letting me know about this utility.
I did spend about a half hour trying out Super and fiddling with numerous settings, but I had issues with video stutter and audio sync, depending on what I was trying to do. It seems like a powerful compilation utility, but I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. I don't think it's a better solution than the tools I've already got for typical workflow scenarios, although if I could figure out why the audio is a bit out of sync, I would like to use it for specific purposes, such as converting a wmv file to an mpeg file, which DMF6+ cannot handle without huge amounts of frame drops. Have you tried Super and had any audio sync issues? If so, were you able to fix them?
At this time, I guess I have three options if I want to make use of DMF6+ to create and author an SD DVD:
1) Use VideoReDo to save the TS file as a PS file, given that the data rate seems acceptable.
2) Use DMF6+ to create BDMV folders and just keep the .m2ts file.
3) Use SVCD2DVD to create SD DVD folders and just keep the supplementary MPEG file.
I'm thinking of going with option #1 for ease of workflow, although it's still an extra, time-consuming workaround step until / unless DMF6+ gets a patch to be able to better process more types of HD TS files. Do you think it's worth opening a trouble ticket with Corel/Ulead, or will they get the info they need from this discussion thread?
Thanks again for your help!
Thank you very much for taking a look at the test video.
I let DMF6+ encode a 5 minute long transport stream file that had not yet been edited or touched by VideoReDo. Notably, the DMF6+ SD MPEG2 encode still had several noticeable glitches identical in nature to the ones observed when using the shorter edited files, although the errors were not quite as frequent. So, you're probably right that there is something about the way that the CapDVHS utility captures and re-packetizes the HD video into a transport stream. Apparently, running Quick Stream Fix in VideoReDo does not fix the problem, but VideoReDo does not seem to be the originator of the problem, either. Using CapDVHS to capture HD transport streams is the most common method for getting unencrypted content off of the Motorola DVR, so it's really a shame that DMF6+ cannot handle the TS files correctly, even though VideoReDo and SVCD2DVD seem to have no problem with them, as I've never seen such obvious visible glitches with those apps.
I have only found VLC Media Player to do a good job of playing back TS files. Many other players don't play back smoothly, don't report the correct time information, or don't play at all. For very large TS files of several gigs, sometimes VLC cannot display the time info, either.
I used Avidemux2 to compare the TS and PS versions of the same clip using the Histogram tool, and the data rates seem nearly identical. Thank you for letting me know about this utility.
I did spend about a half hour trying out Super and fiddling with numerous settings, but I had issues with video stutter and audio sync, depending on what I was trying to do. It seems like a powerful compilation utility, but I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. I don't think it's a better solution than the tools I've already got for typical workflow scenarios, although if I could figure out why the audio is a bit out of sync, I would like to use it for specific purposes, such as converting a wmv file to an mpeg file, which DMF6+ cannot handle without huge amounts of frame drops. Have you tried Super and had any audio sync issues? If so, were you able to fix them?
At this time, I guess I have three options if I want to make use of DMF6+ to create and author an SD DVD:
1) Use VideoReDo to save the TS file as a PS file, given that the data rate seems acceptable.
2) Use DMF6+ to create BDMV folders and just keep the .m2ts file.
3) Use SVCD2DVD to create SD DVD folders and just keep the supplementary MPEG file.
I'm thinking of going with option #1 for ease of workflow, although it's still an extra, time-consuming workaround step until / unless DMF6+ gets a patch to be able to better process more types of HD TS files. Do you think it's worth opening a trouble ticket with Corel/Ulead, or will they get the info they need from this discussion thread?
Thanks again for your help!
Rendo,
I've enjoyed this thread.
I guess the best choice is VideoRedo.
In Super on the top left dropdown box are the container format listings.
You want to find " vob (.TS /.M2T to .VOB)
This should force a new screen to appear when you select it.
On the Top of the new screen will have the wording Direct conversion of HDTV .TS / .M2T file(s) to .VOB
Then I think you use VOB Free Aspect (you may want to also try the VOB DVD Compliant).
Not sure about tech support, I think the above utility in Super may fix the problem. It's a very fast conversion.
I've enjoyed this thread.
I guess the best choice is VideoRedo.
In Super on the top left dropdown box are the container format listings.
You want to find " vob (.TS /.M2T to .VOB)
This should force a new screen to appear when you select it.
On the Top of the new screen will have the wording Direct conversion of HDTV .TS / .M2T file(s) to .VOB
Then I think you use VOB Free Aspect (you may want to also try the VOB DVD Compliant).
Not sure about tech support, I think the above utility in Super may fix the problem. It's a very fast conversion.
Thank you for the suggestion to try to "repackage" the TS file in Super. The VOB Free Aspect option results in another HD MPEG file with the VOB extension, presumably without the source packet issue. The VOB DVD Compliant option reduced the resolution as expected, but I thought it looked a little bit choppy in playback, so I don't think I would use that going forward.
Using the newly created HD MPEG VOB file, I renamed the extension to MPG since DMF6+ does not recognize VOB, put the file on the timeline for an SD DVD project, exported it using the previously agreed settings, and the resulting file appeared to be a glitch-free encode.
So, we could add that as a fourth workaround method. I think I'll stick with trying to use VideoReDo to save the PS file since I'll have that app open at that point in the workflow and see how that goes.
I still think DMF6+ would do well to be able to handle more types of transport stream files in the future, but in the meantime, I will follow through with my first choice and see how the final product looks on my TV.
Hopefully this thread will help others handle this scenario better as well.
Cheers!!!
Using the newly created HD MPEG VOB file, I renamed the extension to MPG since DMF6+ does not recognize VOB, put the file on the timeline for an SD DVD project, exported it using the previously agreed settings, and the resulting file appeared to be a glitch-free encode.
So, we could add that as a fourth workaround method. I think I'll stick with trying to use VideoReDo to save the PS file since I'll have that app open at that point in the workflow and see how that goes.
I still think DMF6+ would do well to be able to handle more types of transport stream files in the future, but in the meantime, I will follow through with my first choice and see how the final product looks on my TV.
Hopefully this thread will help others handle this scenario better as well.
Cheers!!!
I think that MF6+ can also correct the file in it's HD state.
Using either the HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disk module if you made a template & project settings equal to 1920x1080 18MBS VBR, 100% compression, audio same as source.
Then exported using this new template to a new HD file.
Use that new encoded HD file to convert to SD.
But, VideoRedo does the same thing.
Good to know the "Super" worked. One of the reasons they added the feature to Super was to convert TS to PS. Many authoring/editing apps can only use PS.
MF6+ is one, it can edit in PS format, not TS. To edit TS format one would have to use VS11+.
Someday I'll have a DVR HD Recorder, they are talking about switching over digital broadcasts only in a year or so.
Using either the HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disk module if you made a template & project settings equal to 1920x1080 18MBS VBR, 100% compression, audio same as source.
Then exported using this new template to a new HD file.
Use that new encoded HD file to convert to SD.
But, VideoRedo does the same thing.
Good to know the "Super" worked. One of the reasons they added the feature to Super was to convert TS to PS. Many authoring/editing apps can only use PS.
MF6+ is one, it can edit in PS format, not TS. To edit TS format one would have to use VS11+.
Someday I'll have a DVR HD Recorder, they are talking about switching over digital broadcasts only in a year or so.