Experiences using MSP8 on quad-core systems?

Gorf · Post by **Gorf** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:00 am

Has anyone tried MSP with this on Vista?

jpal · Post by **jpal** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:09 am

Have run MSP8 on VPC2007 under XP but not Vista. Works fine, I'm not aware of anything that would stop VPC running under Vista (apart from the usual!).

One of the important advantages in practice of a VM over dual boot etc. (apart from the snapshotting & load "anywhere") is that you really do have multiple machines running at the same time, and this means (at least with VMware) that you can cut & paste between the machines, and share folders between them (including network shares). I also like being able to minimise the VM while MSP does its render, and have my main desktop back (on of the more silly things that MSP does...)

Regards John B

John Reid · Post by **John Reid** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:48 pm

Gorf wrote:Has anyone tried MSP with this on Vista?

Be careful of the Microsoft licensing restrictions ... you have to have bought the expensive Business or Ultimate versions of Vista to run XP in Virtual PC 2007 on Vista .... otherwise you need to buy an XP license as well as your Vista license!

John Reid · Post by **John Reid** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:54 pm

James23 wrote:I have Q6600 2.8Ghz, Asus P5KE wifi, mushkin 2gb pc8500 ram, no overclocking, 1066FSB (std support per motherboard), eVGA Geforce 8600GT 512m.

Thanks for responding ... are you running XP, and if so, are you experiencing any crashes in MSP?

Rilla927 · Post by **Rilla927** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:50 am

John Reid wrote: I'm worried now, seeing as Corel have discontinued the product, that I will never be able to get MSP8 to run as stable as it was on my old machine, as there will be no more product updates.

Are you serious, they are discontinuing MSP8? That must be why I don't see an upgrade button for this program at the Ulead site. I have version 7 and wanted to upgrade to 8.

John Reid · Post by **John Reid** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:49 pm

Rilla927 wrote:
John Reid wrote: I'm worried now, seeing as Corel have discontinued the product, that I will never be able to get MSP8 to run as stable as it was on my old machine, as there will be no more product updates.
Are you serious, they are discontinuing MSP8? That must be why I don't see an upgrade button for this program at the Ulead site. I have version 7 and wanted to upgrade to 8.

Sad but true. I'd investigate Sony's Vegas if I were you. I'll never buy another ULead or Corel product again.

Rilla927 · Post by **Rilla927** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:22 pm

Hi John,

Thanks for confirming. MSP isn't installed yet on my new machine I built back in Sept 07. I have the same mobo, processor as you. I guess I will find out later tonite when I install it if it will run properly.

What I don't like about VMS Platinum, you are limited to 4 video tracks.

John Reid · Post by **John Reid** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:57 pm

Rilla927 wrote:What I don't like about VMS Platinum, you are limited to 4 video tracks.

I'm trialing VMS 8.0 at the moment and I like the interface, also I find I'm getting amazing performance out of the Q6600 with it. If I can't get MSP8 to work properly, I think I'll go for Vegas Studio anyway, and if the 4-track limit becomes a problem, I may upgrade to the full Vegas at a later date. Don't forget you'll also get Vista compatibility and an actively updated product as well. I don't imagine Corel will be buying Sony and sucking the life out of them any time soon either

Ormond Williams · Post by **Ormond Williams** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:35 am

I am just about to buy a new Dell computer with quad core processor and Win XP Pro and want to run MSPro 8 on it. I don't understand how to disable cores or what VMware is.

Am I going to have trouble getting MSP 8 to work satisfactorily? Should I try to get a dual core processor instead? Should I forget about using MSP 8 on any new computers?
What would you experts advise me to do?
Thanks!

troppo · Post by **troppo** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:57 am

Go quad. It should be fine, but worst case scenario you can just set MSP8 to run on 2 cores. But as long as your drivers are installed correctly I dont think you'll have a problem. Also, you'll be ready for any software upgrades should you choose to change to another brand in the future, as the newer editors all take much better advantage of multicore machines.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:06 am

VMware is where you have a system within a system - sort of like an emulator. Perhaps you have Microsoft Vista and want to run XP.
You could create a dual boot system or you could use VMware and run XP from within Vista.

To disable multiple cores you do so via the system BIOS - that message you see when you first start up your computer that says hit the "**" key to enter setup. the "**" varies from computer to computer, some computers use the f2 key, others the del key and others some other key.

Before going to any of these extremes I would simply try running it without making any alterations to your computer to see if it works as it is.

Ormond Williams · Post by **Ormond Williams** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:33 am

Thanks Troppo & Steve!
It sounds like it won't actually be too much drama if I do have to disable cores.
I can always rely on getting good advice here!

Wim Kok · Post by **Wim Kok** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:56 pm

What I will do next weekend when I have some time is to rebuild a partition from scratch, install MSP8 and only then install XP SP2 over the top ...

Hello John, this response to a very old post of you is my question whether you ever managed to get MSP8 working on a quad core machine? I'm considering to purchase my fourth FJS pc now since XP is still available. But the FJS type I have in mind is in available with a quad core CPU only.
Please drop me a few lines.
regards
Wim Kok

Wim Kok · Post by **Wim Kok** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:12 pm

John Reid did not answer my question I asked with my message of march 11th on the subject of MSP8 on a quad core CPU. The thread is rather old indeed and perhaps John is not following this forum anymore.
But I assume that other forum members with experience on this subject are willing to share that experience. The issue is whether purchasing a Quad core computer for editing with MSP8 makes sense or is a waste of money. Thanks in advance. Wim Kok

asande · Post by **asande** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:15 pm

Wim Kok wrote: The issue is whether purchasing a Quad core computer for editing with MSP8 makes sense or is a waste of money. Thanks in advance. Wim Kok

Hi, Wim:

I'm still using a dual core system for MSP - but am also curious about how MSP8 works with a quad core system...

Some recent hardware advertising I've seen indicates an 80% speed increase over dual core when rendering, but of course the ad didn't say if this required software optimized for a quad core system or not...

Based on the lack of activity in here lately, I suspect most people have left this forum (and software) now and have moved on to other things. I still much prefer MSP of any of the alternatives I've been able to review - it's a shame this application is now "orphanware".

Al

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