I have been playing arround with my upgraded PC and noticed during MPEG renders the CPU usage is only 50% on each core:
1 minute of HDV1080 rendered to 720p HD 30 fps MPEG2 took 2:45.
The same thing done in Sony Vegas Movie Studio Premire trial took only 1:43 and both core CPU usage at 97%. Almost twice as fast.
Both use Main Concepts MPEG encodes so MSP8 needs some compiler updating because everything else is the same. I would directly say CPU usage is the reason for the speed difference.
Regards,
Rob
MSP8 Mpeg enoder needs a re-compling!
MSP8 Mpeg enoder needs a re-compling!
Athalon 64 X2 6400+, 1GIG DD2 PC6400, Asus M2NBP-VM CSM MB, ADS Pryo IEEE-1394, 260 Gig UDMA133 Hard Drive + 15 gig system drive, 18x DVDRW+/-, Windows XP SP2. 47" LCD HDTV / Monitor 1920x1080
Rob,
Corel/Ulead's MPEG encoder is really showing its age anyway. You're better off going with Procoder 3 or TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress.
I frameserve to TMPGEnc from MSP7 all the time.
http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/
It's worth a try. Let us know your results because if memory serves me, you were one of the users at DMN that found problems with Ulead's MPEG encoding at low bitrates.
Corel/Ulead's MPEG encoder is really showing its age anyway. You're better off going with Procoder 3 or TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress.
I frameserve to TMPGEnc from MSP7 all the time.
http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/
It's worth a try. Let us know your results because if memory serves me, you were one of the users at DMN that found problems with Ulead's MPEG encoding at low bitrates.
Yes it was me.... back in the days when I had to encode at lower bitrates to fit my project on a CD-R.
Now I am kind of in the same boat again with HDV footage and a fussy Sony Playstaion 3 for playback. It is supposed to play Divx out to 2 gig files - it does not. It is supposed to read a dual layer DVD+R disc - it only reads layer 1 then hangs though that could be a disc type as I bought cheap ones from Best Buy to test out. It is a damn shame Divx does not play properly because it renders FAST and has excellent quality. Tried a 1.75 Gig file and it just sat there with a black screen! One minute test files play fine so I am wondering if the limit is 1 gig and not two as Sony states. The other issue is sequential automatic file playback on the PS3... have not found that setting yet to turn it on. version 2.10 PS3 I think still needs updating as the previous version did not play WMV or Divx and is new as of December 2007.
I can live with the encode speed but the whole purpose of upgrading my PC was to get enough speed to handle HDV 1080... Athalon 64 X2 6400+ dual core should do the trick.
I played with framserving a few years ago but you will have to refresh my memory on how to do it and where to download the stuff. I have not used TMPEGenc in several years as well - has that gotten faster? It was allways the best quality but damn slow.
Regards,
Rob
Now I am kind of in the same boat again with HDV footage and a fussy Sony Playstaion 3 for playback. It is supposed to play Divx out to 2 gig files - it does not. It is supposed to read a dual layer DVD+R disc - it only reads layer 1 then hangs though that could be a disc type as I bought cheap ones from Best Buy to test out. It is a damn shame Divx does not play properly because it renders FAST and has excellent quality. Tried a 1.75 Gig file and it just sat there with a black screen! One minute test files play fine so I am wondering if the limit is 1 gig and not two as Sony states. The other issue is sequential automatic file playback on the PS3... have not found that setting yet to turn it on. version 2.10 PS3 I think still needs updating as the previous version did not play WMV or Divx and is new as of December 2007.
I can live with the encode speed but the whole purpose of upgrading my PC was to get enough speed to handle HDV 1080... Athalon 64 X2 6400+ dual core should do the trick.
I played with framserving a few years ago but you will have to refresh my memory on how to do it and where to download the stuff. I have not used TMPEGenc in several years as well - has that gotten faster? It was allways the best quality but damn slow.
Regards,
Rob
Athalon 64 X2 6400+, 1GIG DD2 PC6400, Asus M2NBP-VM CSM MB, ADS Pryo IEEE-1394, 260 Gig UDMA133 Hard Drive + 15 gig system drive, 18x DVDRW+/-, Windows XP SP2. 47" LCD HDTV / Monitor 1920x1080
Rob,
Sorry I can't help with the Sony Playstation issue, but I can with the encoding one. As a TMPGEnc Plus user from v.2.57, I can say that TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress is faster than ever with unmatched quality. More options, templates, customizing, VOB extracting, etc...
As for frameserving, I provided the link in my earlier reply. Check it out, it gives detailed info for use with Ulead MSP and Video Studio.
Sorry I can't help with the Sony Playstation issue, but I can with the encoding one. As a TMPGEnc Plus user from v.2.57, I can say that TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress is faster than ever with unmatched quality. More options, templates, customizing, VOB extracting, etc...
As for frameserving, I provided the link in my earlier reply. Check it out, it gives detailed info for use with Ulead MSP and Video Studio.
I download the trial version of TMPEG Xpress 4.0 and with some testing have determined it to be just slightly faster than MSP though after taking the slight speed hit from doing a frame serve operation the speed issue is about a wash.
I am sticking with the ULEAD encoder because there is not a quality issue doing Single pass MPEG-2 and on my maching I have tweaked it to yeild about 1/2 realtime render speed with 1280x720p 30 fps output from a 1440x1080 HDV source. This is at about 50% CPU usage... it is using both cores just not as much as it should.
The Sony Vegas version is faster with standard settings however you can't adjust the MPEG stream at all which will not work for me.
In addition TMPEG has gotten a bit expensive at $100... I see no benefit for me anymore.
FYI - I also tried Video Studio 11+ MPEG engine - it is rather weird that the core usage is very unbalanced but no faster than MSP8 and it is newer build by about 2 years!
So for now MSP8 is it doing 720p HD files for output.... when I get a 1080p TV in the house I will consider doing the full 1080 output format and hopefully Sony will have fixed the Playstation 3 Divx issues. 4 gig file support would be a dream there.
Regards,
Rob
I am sticking with the ULEAD encoder because there is not a quality issue doing Single pass MPEG-2 and on my maching I have tweaked it to yeild about 1/2 realtime render speed with 1280x720p 30 fps output from a 1440x1080 HDV source. This is at about 50% CPU usage... it is using both cores just not as much as it should.
The Sony Vegas version is faster with standard settings however you can't adjust the MPEG stream at all which will not work for me.
In addition TMPEG has gotten a bit expensive at $100... I see no benefit for me anymore.
FYI - I also tried Video Studio 11+ MPEG engine - it is rather weird that the core usage is very unbalanced but no faster than MSP8 and it is newer build by about 2 years!
So for now MSP8 is it doing 720p HD files for output.... when I get a 1080p TV in the house I will consider doing the full 1080 output format and hopefully Sony will have fixed the Playstation 3 Divx issues. 4 gig file support would be a dream there.
Regards,
Rob
Athalon 64 X2 6400+, 1GIG DD2 PC6400, Asus M2NBP-VM CSM MB, ADS Pryo IEEE-1394, 260 Gig UDMA133 Hard Drive + 15 gig system drive, 18x DVDRW+/-, Windows XP SP2. 47" LCD HDTV / Monitor 1920x1080