Titles look like crap!

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WaxonWaxov

Titles look like crap!

Post by WaxonWaxov »

Why Why WHY does VS9 make EVERYTHING fuzzy?

I try to put titles over a jpg and they look like CRAP because for some damned reason they're fuzzy in the final product

Why can't I select from a full pallet for my title color? I select a color I want then it says it's been changed by a filter. The filtered color is NO GOOD!

thoughts?
THoff

Post by THoff »

My UVS 7/8/9 titles were never fuzzy in the final output, only during preview. Something must be borked in your workflow or the settings you use.

The filtered colors are the result of adjusting them to fit the color space used by TV instead of PC monitors. If you don't want UVS to perform this service for you (in which case what you see in UVS won't match what you'll see on a TV), then go to Preferences -> Edit, and uncheck the "Apply color filter" checkbox.
WaxonWaxov

Post by WaxonWaxov »

THoff wrote:never... in the final output, only during preview.
That seems to be the standard response to things looking like crap from this program. So I went ahead, burned it to DVD, then played it on my TV and guess what.... looks exactly like the preview.... crap.
THoff wrote: The filtered colors are the result of adjusting them to fit the color space used by TV instead of PC monitors. If you don't want UVS to perform this service for you (in which case what you see in UVS won't match what you'll see on a TV), then go to Preferences -> Edit, and uncheck the "Apply color filter" checkbox.
So you're telling me that a TV can't support 256x256x256 colors? That can't be right. Besides, I'm only getting like 16 colors to choose from. I KNOW a TV can do more than that. In the current problem I'm having, it won't let be pick RED for crying out loud. Good, old-fashioned 255,0,0 red.

thanks anyway. I'm about to give up on video editing. You shouldn't have to pay $1,000 for software in order to get decent results.
MikeGunter

Post by MikeGunter »

WaxonWaxov wrote: So you're telling me that a TV can't support 256x256x256 colors?
That can't be right.
It is. RGB colors on a VGA screen are not the same in NTSC or PAL.

In NTSC, the color set is vastly reduced.

More than likely, the problems you are having are the resolution and CODEC you are using.

What is the file type of the clip and of the project?

Mike
THoff

Post by THoff »

WaxonWaxov, I'm sorry you don't like it, but it's a fact: TVs are not like your PC monitor. They are interlaced, they aren't bit-addressible, and they use a different color space and temperature.

What font are you using for your titles? Is it a TrueType font that is scalable, or a bitmap font? If the font isn't available in the size you selected, the font mapper in the GDI layer must scale it, which may not be very clean.

And I assume that in the end, you are creating a DVD with Full D1 (720x480) resolution, right?
thecoalman

Post by thecoalman »

WaxonWaxov wrote:
So you're telling me that a TV can't support 256x256x256 colors? That can't be right. Besides, I'm only getting like 16 colors to choose from. I KNOW a TV can do more than that. In the current problem I'm having, it won't let be pick RED for crying out loud. Good, old-fashioned 255,0,0 red.
The top is monitor colors, the bottom is the same colors adjusted for NTSC by Photoimpact. I just picked a basic fill. FYI the red on top is 255,0,0 at least before I saved as jpg.
Image

You shouldn't have to pay $1,000 for software in order to get decent results.
And in the wrong hands the $1000 dollar software can produce just as bad results. Contrary to the commercials and advertising hype creating very professional video is not exactly cut and dried even with the very best software. User knowledge goes a long way.
WaxonWaxov

Post by WaxonWaxov »

MikeGunter wrote:RGB colors on a VGA screen are not the same in NTSC or PAL.

In NTSC, the color set is vastly reduced.

More than likely, the problems you are having are the resolution and CODEC you are using.

What is the file type of the clip and of the project?

Mike
*** Waxon listens to the whoosh as that goes right over his head ***

THoff wrote:… They are interlaced, they aren't bit-addressible, and they use a different color space and temperature.

What font are you using for your titles? Is it a TrueType font that is scalable, or a bitmap font? If the font isn't available in the size you selected, the font mapper in the GDI layer must scale it, which may not be very clean.

And I assume that in the end, you are creating a DVD with Full D1 (720x480) resolution, right?
*** Waxon listens to the whoosh as that goes right over his head ***
thecoalman

Post by thecoalman »

WaxonWaxov wrote:
MikeGunter wrote:RGB colors on a VGA screen are not the same in NTSC or PAL.

In NTSC, the color set is vastly reduced.

More than likely, the problems you are having are the resolution and CODEC you are using.

What is the file type of the clip and of the project?

Mike
*** Waxon listens to the whoosh as that goes right over his head ***

THoff wrote:… They are interlaced, they aren't bit-addressible, and they use a different color space and temperature.

What font are you using for your titles? Is it a TrueType font that is scalable, or a bitmap font? If the font isn't available in the size you selected, the font mapper in the GDI layer must scale it, which may not be very clean.

And I assume that in the end, you are creating a DVD with Full D1 (720x480) resolution, right?
*** Waxon listens to the whoosh as that goes right over his head ***
:lol: ***thecoalman listens to the whoosh as everyone exits this thread***

Hey Waxon, click the link in my sig, the digitalfaq one. Start on the first page and read it all the way through to the last page. It's a very thorough and comprhensive begginer's guide.
WaxonWaxov

Post by WaxonWaxov »

Thanks coalman

My whoosh comments were intended to be humorus commentary on how many people on this forum go straight into highly technical jargon.
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