wmf error on writing

[Keith]

Anyone come across a problem with using Ulead WMF renderers. Every time I try to create a video file using these codecs it crashes right at the very end with the error message "Error on writing file (OXC 00d0bc3)"

Help please

[robtywlak]

I am having the same or similar problem with MSP8 - Consistent crashing trying to render a HDV file to Windows Media 9 HD. Windows media settings do not seem to matter - allways crashes right near the end and seems to render the file twice like a two pass encode.

I have both MSP7 and MSP8 and the funny thing is MSP7 works! I can load the HDV file on the timeline and render WMV using my custom 720p profile and it renders without crashing - though it pauses every second for about a second which makes it render slower but the render completes and the file is playable.

I have not yet tried removing both versions and only having MSP8 but that is my next step.

AS I side note I just upgraded my PC to handle HDV editing but I am 100% certain that is not the reason for this issue.

Any Ideas Brian, Terry or George?

Rob

[Devil]

I have no idea what causes the crashes, but wmv encoding is often two-pass. I have never seen this type of crash but I have used wmv encoding only for Internet applications from DV.

[Gorf]

Try a segmented write. Highlight a chunk of the video and save it using "Preview range only" and see if it works.

If it doesn't, save uncompressed (that's the reason for using preview range - uncompressed will be big), exit MSP and try encoding externally with WME. If it's an MSP problem, that encoding will succeed.

If it does, then we'll need more info such as the duration & bitrate of the WMV you're creating (plus the profile, if it's standard).

[robtywlak]

It *IS* an MSP problem interacting with some unknown software conflict....

Even short segments of 30 seconds have the problem - under 15 seems to work. Preview or entire project makes no difference. Bitrate setting makes no difference. 720P or 1080p / i makes no difference.

MSP7 however *DID* encode without crashing using my custom profile created in MSP8 so there is some level of HDV support in MSP7 if you also have MSP8. Driver / DLL sharing is likely the problem here.

After a complete remove of both MSP7 &8 plus all support applications and re-install of MSP8 only things are even worse. HDV capture is intermittent and freezes, HDV file playback is horrible in Windows Media player.

So now it is back to start with a re-format and fresh install from scratch tonight when I am home. In about 24 hours I will report back my findings.

Regards,

Rob

[Keith]

Try a segmented write. Highlight a chunk of the video and save it using "Preview range only" and see if it works.

If it doesn't, save uncompressed (that's the reason for using preview range - uncompressed will be big), exit MSP and try encoding externally with WME. If it's an MSP problem, that encoding will succeed.

It doesn't matter if its just a short section or the whole file it still crashes(the programme is less than two minutes anyway).

To encode out of MSP8? what would be the best way to do that - what file format to create from MSP and then which encoder?

Thanks

[robtywlak]

Here are the results after a fresh install with all the latest BIOS, Drivers ect.

The Score = MSP8 = nothing (Crashes 100%)
Windows Media Encoder 9 = Sucessful encode from HDV MPEG.

My new upgraded PC encoded a 30 second clip with 2 passes in just over 2 minutes. Speed improvement over Athalon XP 3000+ is about 3x with the new MB, RAM, and Athalon 64 X2 6400+ CPU.

This is absoutely 100% a MSP file writing issue with the crashes - Ulead has had a history of this type of problem too going back to MSP6.0 when I started Video over 6years ago.

Some good news though.... My Sony Playstation 3 can play native HDV files with no problems and it will play a 4 gig file which is 20 minutes on a DVD+R disc. Now to try a Dual Layer 8.5 gig disc for 40 minutes of playtime. If that works then I will stick with MSP and use MPEG-2 HDV native format for input and output.

Regards,

Rob

[robtywlak]

Well I installed the Trial of Sony Vegas movie studio (not pro) and now MSP renders WMV without crashing... so it was a bad DLL as I thought.

There also appears to be issues with the V2.10 Playstation 3 software as sometimes WMV and Divx play and sometimes they don't. So now I am not sure on which format to output to - MPEG2 has a 4 gig apparent limit because the dual layer test I did failed to play past the 4 gig point on the Playstation 3. That limits my file size to about 30 minutes for 18Mbit 720p HD. WMV and Divx supposedly have a 2 gig limit according to Sony and render slower so there is no advantage unless they can also go to 4 gig on the Playstation 3.... have yet to test this out. I am leaning towards Divx because It encodes faster and I have more control on the settings - but only if I can do 4 gig files.

Any suggestions? Otherwise MPEG2 is my default format and I am limited to 720p resolution and 18 Mbit / 30 minute files.

Regards,

Rob

[troppo]

Cant you just split the files and name them sequentially? My media player will play continuously any files that have the same name followed by a number (name_of_file_1.avi, name_of_file_2.avi etc) But at the very worst you will just have to navigate to the next file and click play.

[robtywlak]

That would be an option *IF* I can get the Playstion 3 to play consecutive files like chapters on a DVD disc. So far I have not figured out how to do it - maybe there is some setting to allow this.

In that case then Divx would win because I can fit more on a DVD at the same quality as MPEG-2.

I did try a Divx file at 2.2 gig and it would not play at all...this does not make sense since Dvix uses AVI2.0 and UDF DVD discs do not have a file size limit. Must be some file addressing issue with the Playstation 3 though I can play a 4 gig MPEG-2 file.

Regards,

Rob