2 questions about using ulead video studio 11

[billy336]

hi,
i'm new here and i have 2 questions.
am making a movie with ulead video studio 11plus and first question is:
at the preview screen it shows the scene much darker than after i created a video-file. my problem is that in my movie im using a red colour filter at a scene wich looks orange after i've created the video as a file. My question now is how have i to adjust the settings (brightness, gamma, contrast whatever) to have a dark red light in my movie like it showed in the preview and not this orange.

here to see:

preview (how♦ it should be)
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=previewuj6.jpg
and after creating video
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=videoct1.jpg

and now my second question:
Is it possible somehow in ulead video studio to make a scene look like its running with 5 or 10fps. for example if i make a scene with someone running in the video that it shows his movments not to smooth. more like the video is running with lower frames. the effect like you watch through a digicam. hope u understand what i mean.

thanx alot for help

[sjj1805]

I thought it might be easier if our members could see a side by side comparison of the problem.

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and now my second question:
Is it possible somehow in ulead video studio to make a scene look like its running with 5 or 10fps. for example if i make a scene with someone running in the video that it shows his movments not to smooth. more like the video is running with lower frames. the effect like you watch through a digicam. hope u understand what i mean.

thanx alot for help

Perhaps speeding up or slowing the video down?
Playback Speed
OR
Strobe Motion Filter?Video Filters

[babdi]

Billy
The play back speed can be adjusted Select the clip you want the speed altered. Right click and you will see "Playback speed". Click to open the window.Move the slider to the desired position.

[Clevo]

Some questions for you Billy.

I have been reading a lot lately about colour management in windows Vista (64 bit) and the difficulties in LCD monitor colour calibration with other peripherals like printer and scanners

It's a very complex thing of which I am still learning.

The Red filter wad that applied on the lens while shooting?

What video file are you creating?

and my other questions are.... do other video files correct the colour to orange?

with the same video file...open them in other media players to see what if any alterations.

To me sometimes the VS11.5+ preview pane needs many improvements. you could try setting the preview quality to something other than what it is now to see if that has an effect.

Honestly, It's going to be tough to sort all this out due to all the factors involved .... all software handle colours in such different subtle ways. I suspect differnt vidoe compressions will do the same.

On my monitor, a Samsung SyncMaster 206BW, has a setting I will be turning off as it auto changes contrast depending on the level of brightness on the screen...which makes things impossible to calibrate properly.

One solution would be to add a red colur block in the overlay track and play with the transperancy levels.

[billy336]

ok thanx @all for your help first.

@babdi
thanx for instruction but its not that i wanna change the playing speed. i want the video to play the same lenght as in normal speed. i just want to lower the "framerate". i wanna create a lower framrate like every 5th picture is shown but the speed should stay the same.
virtual 5fps. hop you understand what I mean

@sjj1805
thanx for posting the pictures. the strobe motion filter is perhaps what im looking for but whenever i use it it messes up my video. for example i have a clip with a lenght of 8 minutes (i had to create it before because i needed more sound tracks) from this track i want the strobe motion filter to start at minute 3:14,28 and ends at 5:25,12. now I make a cut at minute 3:14,28 and 5:25,12 to have just the part i want to use the strobe filter on, separately. But in this small clip now i've cut out from the big one it shows me parts of the main clip (which i allready cut out) at activated "strobe motion" filter. Haven't found a tutorial how to use the strobe motion filter correct yet.

@Cevo
yes thats what i'm also thinking about. I also tried to darken my monitor and the colour looked much closer like how i want it to be (see "before" picture). the output file (on the second picture) is a mpeg (pal dvd 16:9) i played around with birghtness settings and found out that when i adjust the brightness setting to -6 the orange looks more red like i want it to be. but the black colour has still this brightness inside like you see in the "after" picture. first i thought the problem is the player-software (vlc-lan) but same with windows media player.

this is from the created video file with settings: brightness -6 and contrast +5



the red looks more red now but the black colour isn't that black as in the preview (and as i want it to be)

btw creating a red overlay track may be a good idea. another thing im going to try out today...

[Black Lab]

my problem is that in my movie im using a red colour filter at a scene wich looks orange after i've created the video as a file.

Do you have the color safe filter (can't think of the exact term) turned on in Preferences. I think it is turned on by default. Try turning it off and see if that helps.

[billy336]

turned it off but can't see any difference from turned on results. still the same as before.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

Clutching at straws really:-

Switch off ¡¥smart render¡¦ whilst rendering.

This will force VS to render every frame

Worth a try

Ps
You don¡¦t indicate the properties of the video file.(Dv-avi, avi, divx, mpeg??????????????)

Do these symptoms occur will all file types

Unfortunately I do not own VS11 and cannot replicate your problem,

[Ron P.]

Billy we really need you to answer some of the questions posed.

The Red filter was that applied on the lens while shooting?

Those just posted by Trevor would help iron this out. If the original video is of such poor quality, VS may not be able to correct it. However that's uncertain, because we just don't have enough information to work with.

[billy336]

Billy we really need you to answer some of the questions posed.

The Red filter was that applied on the lens while shooting?

Those just posted by Trevor would help iron this out. If the original video is of such poor quality, VS may not be able to correct it. However that's uncertain, because we just don't have enough information to work with.

no. i'm not using a video camera for making my movie. This is a scene recorded with fraps from a video-game. I just applied the "light" video-filter included in vs11

this is how it looks in original.



EDIT: Ok i guess the problem with the brightness is a problem that can not be solved. Propably its really a hardware problem. I tested the same video file on another pc (monitor: sony hs94p; GC:ati x800) and it looks fine there. On mine (Viewsonic VX2025wm; geforce7950) the red light looks always orange in the output video file.

are there any other tips for my second question how to make the movie look like running with lower frames? Maybe someone knows a video filter which creates that effect (except of strobe motion)

[sjj1805]

When you add the strobe motion filter you then have to Customize it as per the following screen shot. You then simply play about with the slider controls until you get the effect you want.

Don't forget to copy the first key frame and paste it to the last key frame.

[Clevo]

Billy we really need you to answer some of the questions posed.

The Red filter was that applied on the lens while shooting?

Those just posted by Trevor would help iron this out. If the original video is of such poor quality, VS may not be able to correct it. However that's uncertain, because we just don't have enough information to work with.

no. i'm not using a video camera for making my movie. This is a scene recorded with fraps from a video-game. I just applied the "light" video-filter included in vs11

this is how it looks in original.



EDIT: Ok i guess the problem with the brightness is a problem that can not be solved. Propably its really a hardware problem. I tested the same video file on another pc (monitor: sony hs94p; GC:ati x800) and it looks fine there. On mine (Viewsonic VX2025wm; geforce7950) the red light looks always orange in the output video file.

are there any other tips for my second question how to make the movie look like running with lower frames? Maybe someone knows a video filter which creates that effect (except of strobe motion)

It's a colour management issue. you just need to callibrate your monitor.

Do a google search for color (note american spelling) management. There are some good web based tools to help.

as for the dropped frame effect this is how I would do it:

Start at first frame.... save as a still....move forward 5 frames and on the 6th save frame as still. keep to the same fomula.

you will have a whole bunch of stills.

in Preferences change default color block duration to 5 frames.

it's a bit fiddly but just drop in a still...then a colour block...still then colour block and so on.

or..another way..perhaps a little easier.

video on video track...drop a colour block of 5 frames duration in overlay track leaving a one frame gap in between each addition of colour block on the overlay track.

[bvideo]

I had trouble applying the strobe filter to a trimmed clip. The time remapping seems to make it reach for areas outside of the trimming.

But here are some other discoveries.

A way to convert to a sequence of stills (e.g. if you wanted to do a strobe effect by hand):

1. Isolate the clip you want converted to stills (by itself on the timeline or set preview area after step 2)
2. Change the playback speed of the clip, say to 500% to get one still every 5 frames.
3. Export: share->create video file->custom with a "save as type" of ulead "uis" (image sequence). You can even choose what image format you want. Use "preview area" if necessary.

Then you have a .uis file that you can use something like a clip and you have a bunch of stills, say .bmp or .jpg. The .uis file apparently references all the stills. Too bad, though, you cannot change the playback speed of a .uis or else this would be too easy as a way to strobe. Another problem is motion in the original video might not translate well to stills (jaggies), and there seems to be no option to take "odd" or "even" field only.

However, one can then re-export this same .uis file as an mpeg2 file and then change its rate (say to 20% to get the original duration back). But it might be necessary to use a frame type of "frame-based", not upper- or lower-first. Not sure about this part.

If you didn't want the stills, but just wanted to use duration changes to achieve a strobe effect, just export the duration-altered clip as a frame-based mpeg2 (instead of step 3 above) and bring the mpeg2 back in and change its playback speed to recover the original duration. There is still the problem of motion in the original video causing "jaggies" in the rendered clip.

Bill B.

[billy336]

ok iv've found a way how to make this "lower framerate" effect very easy for everyone who is interessted:
Mark the part of your movie which you wanna have this lower framerate. Go to "share" and select "create movie" (or somthing like that. Don't now excactly how its called in english version) choose cutom. There choose under "save as type" "microsoft avi" than enter options. There you can select the framerate you wish your video to be created with. (type in the number) Create the video file. Open you project again. drag the avi into your project. viola!