Capture AVCHD file causes VS 11.5 to crash

holabr · Post by **holabr** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:53 am

Whenever I attempt to either insert a AVCHD video clip or capture one from my harddrive, the browse window pops up and it allows me to find my AVCHD directory. However as soon as I try to check one of the clips in the list, I get the dreaded box that says the program cannot continue and asks if I want to "Send error report". The same thing happened in both VS 11 and after I downloaded the latest patches and updates. I am running WinXP Pro. I have selected to send the report but have not received any response as to the possible problem. Any ideas?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:10 am

You haven't given us any details (or filled in the System button below) about your computer set-up. But it has to be a fairly powerful one to deal with avchd files. My old computer, only recently replaced, was a P4 3.0GHz with HT and 2 GB of RAM running XP Pro. It could edit avchd files verrrry slowly with VS11+. But it simply could not play the resulting files back. In fact, I thought the edited files were faulty until I transferred them to a Core 2 Duo Vista notebook I have, which could play them fine.

So give us all your computer specifications and we might be able to take it from there...

holabr · Post by **holabr** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:25 am

I'm running a rather old system with an AMD Athlon 1.67GHz with 1.5GB RAM. I have over 150 Gig harddrive available.
I understand that this would take a long time to process the files but slow response but I wouldn't think this should cause a program crash. If that is the case, what good is the minimum system requirements?

Post by **Ron P.** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:32 am

The system requirements provide a general idea of what the bare minimum is needed for the program to function. For editing the common DV, your system appears to be able to handle it. However for HDV non-proxy editing here is what they recommend:

Non-Proxy HDV editing requires

* Intel® Pentium® 4 3.0 GHz or higher with Hyper-Threading technology
* 1 GB of RAM (2 GB or above recommended)
* 16x PCI Express display adapter

It seems that your system is less then half what is required.

My desktop which is an AMD Athlon running at 2.0Ghz, would not be able to handle HDV, and my new laptop running an Intel Duo Core 1.4s with 2gig RAM will have a hard time with it.

So what you need to try is enabling the Proxy editing. That way you will have much smaller file sizes to work with while you're editing.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:37 am

More to the point, those requirements are for what might very loosely be called 'standard' high definition. AVCHD is far more demanding, and your system does not even come close, I would have thought. So VS just chokes and falls over dead!

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:50 pm

Importing the avchd disk doesn't use a whole lot of horse power.
I think if he gets the importing function working the computer is going to have somewhat of a hard time trying to work with the avc/h264 format.

I also have come across this same problem. When you highlight the clip VS or MF locks & causes a windows fault.
That was in Vista.
I did find the solution how to fix the problem by renaming a file in the main VS & MF directories.

The poster has to try & view the details to see what file is causing this.
If it's the H264xxxxxx.dll I may have a fix, not sure because this was on Vista.

I figured this out thanks to the many times when Steve posts and points out that the \common files\MPEG directory is in the windows PATH statement.
So I actually had to different versions of the same file, one in the main executable directory & one in the path statement directory.

holabr · Post by **holabr** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:27 pm

The Error Signature was
AppName: vstudio.exe AppVer: 11.0.0.0 ModName: h264vdechpdll.dll
ModVer: 1.1.1.73 Offset: 00051194

If that helps.

Also, if you were building a system that you wanted to use for editing video, what motherboard, cpu, video card would you recommend. What would you add to receive cable and HD TV?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:53 pm

Look at etech's and my System buttons -- we have similar computers that can handle avchd fine. As for HDTV, mine has a DVico Fusion HDTV card which contains two TV tuners so you can watch one and record on the other, or record on both... Its output truly excellent, though it uses the .tp version of mpeg-2 which is a bit fiddly, and you need another program to convert it to standard mpeg-2 for VS to be able to edit it. I use either Video ReDo or Womble for that, though the card comes with its own converted program which find is a bit erratic however.

Dobs · Post by **Dobs** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:07 pm

holabr wrote:The Error Signature was
AppName: vstudio.exe AppVer: 11.0.0.0 ModName: h264vdechpdll.dll
ModVer: 1.1.1.73 Offset: 00051194

I was having the same problem in MovieFactory. Don't have a resolution, but my current guess is that your processor is too old (the problem you are having only seems to happen on older Athlon processors). In any case, as Ken mentioned, even if you were to get it working, I would suspect it wouldn't be very fun to work with given how demanding AVCHD is. Use this as an excuse to upgrade your PC...that's what I did.

In case you want to read the discussion we had on this issue in MovieFactory:
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=27886

Dabitz · Post by **Dabitz** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:18 am

I had the same problem with a similar setup you have. I bought a cutting-edge Dell computer with all the bells and whistles. I can import, etc, but I still have to create proxy files if I want to edit video with AVCHD files and Dolby Digital. Your current setup won't be able to handle AVCHD files in my opinion, and based on my very own experience.