'Insufficient memory' message when aligning

sisom · Post by **sisom** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:32 pm

Hi everybody, I've made a simple 800 x 800 PI12 file, which has about ten pieces of text (mostly one word) with a reflection effect on each one.
Every time I try to align two of these pieces of text, I get the message 'insufficient memory', and it won't do it.
I've checked my virtual memory folder, and it's empty, and I've got 30GB left on that drive. I've rebooted the PC, in case that worked, but no dice.

If I start a new document, without closing the current one, and create three or four squares, I can't align them either, the message comes up. But if I close down the first document with all the text in it, I can then start a new document and create any number of shapes, and align them successfully.

Has anybody ideas what I can do to get around this? I tried copying the pieces of text into a second document, but it still wouldn't let me align them - it seems like PI12 has taken a dislike to them!

Post by **Ron P.** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:50 pm

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Insufficient Memory error can refer to not enough space left in the RAM. When you work with an application on a PC, all the program is loaded into the RAM. If you have several applications open, those also will occupy some of the RAM.

Now when you start working on files that are quite large, if you do not have enough space left, the program will not be able to work efficiently. Generally the first thing that will happen is that your PC will start using the Virtual Memory, which is hard disk space reserved for this. It can also just choke, freeze up or crash because getting the information on and off the hard disk is too slow.

Try minimizing the usage of any other utilities or applications while working on complex, large files. This will allow your system to devote more resources to your project at hand.

sisom · Post by **sisom** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:19 am

Thanks for your reply Vidoman, I've entered all my system info now. I'm pretty sure it's not really a lack of system memory, because I checked Windows Task Manager, and I had 900MB free, and no hard drive chuntering.
I'll try it again tomorrow with no other applications open at all (normally I have Firefox open with about 30 websites loaded, so that takes quite a bit of memory).

I've had to manually align all the text by hand, using the ruler lines, didn't take very long, but I'd like to get the align property working again.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:09 am

Large pictures can also gobble up memory, I noticed that with 1GB of RAM on a Vista Home Premium I would get this message after opening a couple of dozen photographs. After installing more RAM naturally I could open up even more before getting the message.

What you need to do is only open a small number of pictures at a time and close any other programs that are not necessary whilst you are editing your photo/image/drawing.

Press the [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Del] keys together and bring up task manager and note how many running processes you have. Are they all necessary?
It seems that lots of programs take an assumption that they need to run some sort of optimizer or event monitor when you first boot up your computer even though you are not going to be using that particular program.

Find out where these running processes first start which could be one or more of the following

Windows Startup folder (Start | Programs | Startup)
Windows Registry (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run)
and also (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run)
Check the Windows Services (Start | Run | Services.msc) and check what starts up manually, automatically and also disable any that are not required.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:06 am

It is a well documented bug in PI 12. Initially, I did not have that problem but after a recent re-installation of PI 12 I have the same problem.

In my case though, I don't have a problem lining up two objects, only if there is a group of objects involved. As long as I don't include a group into the align task, all is well. If I un-group the objects, no problem either.

sisom · Post by **sisom** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:53 pm

Hi Heinz-oz, they are indeed groups of objects, so it's the bug! I'll try ungrouping them and aligning - it's a shame this bug exists because it's the sort of thing I use all the time. At least now I know it's a bug and not my lack of memory (computer or otherwise!).

Saverio · Post by **Saverio** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:52 am

I have also had this problem when aligning a group of 3 objects. Each of the 3 grouped items will align independently if not grouped. I have 2 gig of RAM and had shut down all other programs including Anti Virus, but this did not help.
As an experiment I uninstalled PI 12 and Installed Photo Impact Ver 7 on the same PC. With Ver7 the group of 3 items (Same File) aligned with no problem. After Removing Ver 7, and re-installing Ver 12 the problem re-appeared. So it does appear to be a BUG in Photo Impact 12.
Is ULEAD/COREL aware of this, and/or working on a fix?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:00 am

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heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:24 am

Saverio wrote:I have also had this problem when aligning a group of 3 objects. Each of the 3 grouped items will align independently if not grouped. I have 2 gig of RAM and had shut down all other programs including Anti Virus, but this did not help.
As an experiment I uninstalled PI 12 and Installed Photo Impact Ver 7 on the same PC. With Ver7 the group of 3 items (Same File) aligned with no problem. After Removing Ver 7, and re-installing Ver 12 the problem re-appeared. So it does appear to be a BUG in Photo Impact 12.
Is ULEAD/COREL aware of this, and/or working on a fix?

Yes, they are aware of it and, as usual, have fixed it with the next version

I don't have that particular problem in PI X3 but there are reports of other bugs still persistent in PI X3. I don't have encountered any problems yet wit X3 but I didn't have much time to put it through its paces yet either. The group alignment problem is gone on my machine.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:20 pm

If you have Vista and also have a card reader you can insert a blank SD card and Vista will invite you to use the card as extra RAM.

heinz-oz · Post by **heinz-oz** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:42 pm

Not that it would help with this bug in PI 12 because the problem is really not memory related at all.

Expert123 · Post by **Expert123** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:58 pm

As a user since Ulead PI was first introduced, I can confirm that PI 11 does have problems with a report of insufficient memory - irregardless of the amount of memory available. Very annoying!

It typically occurs when I've selected a group of objects to align.

I have been [i]sometimes [/i]successful at getting around the problem by changing the video resolution. Right click on your desktop to change it.

I've also been successful at getting around the problem by changing the workspace from the menu.

In either case, you won't have to close your file, but deselect all objects first.
The problem is that results are inconsistent.

My guess is that it's a resource problem since both temporary solutions releases resources.

In my experience over the years, the problem consistently occurs on AMD processor machines, but never on Intel based processor machines. It could possibly be related to the video driver in conjunction with AMD processors. The brand or model of machine is not the factor. There are known problems with AMD processors and video cards.

Johnny Mac · Post by **Johnny Mac** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:43 am

glad to see others systems are crashing too, mine does whenever I use the lens filter: star option

Venito · Post by **Venito** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:47 pm

sjj1805 wrote:If you have Vista and also have a card reader you can insert a blank SD card and Vista will invite you to use the card as extra RAM.

In somemany times I have the same problem "insuficient memory" I have windows vista premium with 1gb of memory,and my laptop have with them a memory card reader... did you say I only insert a sandisk memory card( 1gb) and windows instantly givme the option to use like memory ram???

please can you explain that?

THANKS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO TELLME HOW TO DO THIS...just insert the memory card( if the windows vista dont invite when you insert) then format the memory-stop the memory and again reinsert the memory, you see a message box "speed my system" -then just only click on use this device and click "ok"

THANKS THANKS THANKS

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