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rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:56 pm

Using Movie Factory Four. I cannot find an explanation of "create DVD Folder" or "Create Disk Image"
What is the purpose of these and why/when would they be advantageous to use rather than "record to disk"?
Thanks,

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:23 pm

Burning the DVD FOlders to your hard drive gives you the chance to test it out using playback software like PowerDVD (or the Ulead DVD Player). It comes in handy having the DVD FOlders on your hard drive -- for testing as well as for watching the DVD at a later time.

And once you are happy with the DVD Folders, you can always burn (in a separate step) the DVD Folders to disc -- it doesn't need to go through the rendering and dvd building process again, it just burns the DVD Folders to disc.

The dvd image works the same way, but it creates a disc image of how your disc will be burned (and you can burn it as many times at a later time). Creating the image, you can also include other things to the image like copyright info, the project files, and a personal folder, and your dvd image will contain all that stuff -- but be aware that you can't exceed the max size for your discs. Problem with the image is you can't easily test it because software dvd players don't load them (although some software players might now, I'm not sure). I believe some optimcal-drive emulation software will load them (like daemon tools), but I had a drive/software conflict with that tool that cleared up once I removed it (never did re-install to see if it was causing the problem).

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:58 pm

thank you

Merlin · Post by **Merlin** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:59 am

Also by creating dvd folders or a disk image you can then use another app. to burn to dvd. For example I always use Nero for burning.

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:36 pm

but do you think then that the burning software (I have the disk creator with Ulead) is not as good as Nero?
Thanks again.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:39 pm

I think it depends on your setup. Some folks cannot get the burning engine to work with some software, so they use other burning software. I have burned MANY DVD's using Ulead, but others use other software like Nero and DVD Decryptor (or whatever works for them).

There are so many combinations of computer software/hardware/burner/installed other software/etc...

So what works for me, might not work for everyone else (and vice versa).

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:48 pm

thanks, George

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:02 am

Thank you, what is your opinion of making the dvd folders, then using'shrink' (by itself or in conunction with multi-trim) to reduce file size?

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:05 pm

anybody...please...and thank you!!!
"Thank you, what is your opinion of making the dvd folders, then using'shrink' (by itself or in conunction with multi-trim) to reduce file size?"

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:11 pm

really depends on how much you need to shrink, and the quality of what you are shrinking (in terms of encoded quality). DVD Shrink does a pretty good job (if your original is high quality). You can't expect miracles though...

DMF4 has a new feature "Fit to disc" -- I havent' tried it yet...

thecoalman · Post by **thecoalman** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:35 pm

rdsatkaycee wrote:anybody...please...and thank you!!!
"Thank you, what is your opinion of making the dvd folders, then using'shrink' (by itself or in conunction with multi-trim) to reduce file size?"

You can do it that way but you have a better end result by doing it correclty the first time if possible.

Use this bitrate calculator, it will tell you what to set the bitrate according to how long your video is.

http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:20 pm

George, thank you, but yes, the shrink I am trying to use is the one that came with MF4; Fit to Disk. I just didn't know when to multi-trim and when to try and shrink. Is there a difference in quality, speed, or ???

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:22 pm

coalman, thank you, I am at work now, so can't download the program, but, what does it do for you? Bitrate is a new term for me.

thecoalman · Post by **thecoalman** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:46 pm

The bitrate is how much information is used per scond to encode your file. 6000kbps or 6000 kilobits per secoond is an average one that is used. If you lower the bitrate you can fit more more video on the disc but this also lowers the quality. That's what DVD shrink does, it takes your video and lowers the rate to fit it on disc. You can use the the bitrate calculator to determine what bitrate to use according to how long your footage is.

This has too benefits, first you don't have to spend the time shrinking it with shrink. Second, video should only be encoded once if possible. The more you mess with it the worse it gets. For example if you encode a DV-AVI file to 8000kbps then reenecode it to 4000kbps and compare it to a 4000kbps video that was encoded directly from the DV-AVI the quality of the 4000kbps video that was encoded directly from the AVI will be superior. Both will have the same file size. By going going straight to the correct size from the start you have avoided reencoding it.

Edit: I see your not using DVD Shrink but the fit-to-disc. That probably performs about the same thing as I described above. I have to read a little better....

rdsatkaycee · Post by **rdsatkaycee** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:37 pm

Thank you, (are you the great grandson, Richard?)

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George,

Thanks Merlin,

Depends...

Depends on how much