VS 11+ Hauppauge Card Support Question
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lyndonevans
VS 11+ Hauppauge Card Support Question
In VS 11+ I tried to capture home video thru my Hauppauge WINTV PVR 1600 NTSC/ATSC/QAM card. I got an error message in VS that my driver for that card was not working properly. I called Hauppauge and was told that ULEAD does not support Hauppauge 1600 and that my driver is the correct one and is working fine. Is this information correct? If so, when will ULEAD/Corel begin supporting these cards, or is there a patch out there already which will work? Thanks.
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I don't have a Hauppage card, but this has been the situation with all Hauppage cards for quite some time (years). It is not Ulead/Corel's fault. The manufacturers of many hardware cards develop their own software for the cards to run properly but do not, or will not, share the code that the software is based on with other software companies like Corel/Ulead.
We generally, in any case, suggest that people in your situation use the software that came with the card as it is developed specifically to work with the card. I for instance have just bought a computer which uses a Dvico Fusion HDTV capture card and it generally captures in a format (.tp -- transport stream mpeg) which VS does not recognise. I have to use another program I have had for a couple of years for other purposes (Video ReDo) which can read that format and convert it to 'standard' mpeg-2...
So you capture with the software which came with the card, then open the captured video in Video Studio to edit it. There is nothing wrong, by the way, with using a number of different programs on any one video project. Quite a few of us capture with one program, edit with VS, get transitions or special effects from another program, do titles in yet another, edit our audio in another, and author the project in another one entirely...
As a footnote, some hardware companies in the past have even bought stock supplies of older versions of Video Studio and tweaked it themselves to get it to work with their cards. But the same thing applies -- the users need to use the older version of VS to capture, but then open the captured files in the newer version to edit...
We generally, in any case, suggest that people in your situation use the software that came with the card as it is developed specifically to work with the card. I for instance have just bought a computer which uses a Dvico Fusion HDTV capture card and it generally captures in a format (.tp -- transport stream mpeg) which VS does not recognise. I have to use another program I have had for a couple of years for other purposes (Video ReDo) which can read that format and convert it to 'standard' mpeg-2...
So you capture with the software which came with the card, then open the captured video in Video Studio to edit it. There is nothing wrong, by the way, with using a number of different programs on any one video project. Quite a few of us capture with one program, edit with VS, get transitions or special effects from another program, do titles in yet another, edit our audio in another, and author the project in another one entirely...
As a footnote, some hardware companies in the past have even bought stock supplies of older versions of Video Studio and tweaked it themselves to get it to work with their cards. But the same thing applies -- the users need to use the older version of VS to capture, but then open the captured files in the newer version to edit...
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Thanks for the info.
I did go ahead and use the card's software, being careful to specify those parameters that you and others suggested earlier. I did get a 30 minute video to decode and write to DVD in about 50 minutes, which is about all I could ask for, I think.
However, you mentioned something else that I was about to try - getting some themes and transitions from another product (namely Showbiz DVD 2) as VS11+ doesn't have them for a project I'm about to start. I'm wondering if this is going to be a huge deal ....
Thanks again for the update.
However, you mentioned something else that I was about to try - getting some themes and transitions from another product (namely Showbiz DVD 2) as VS11+ doesn't have them for a project I'm about to start. I'm wondering if this is going to be a huge deal ....
Thanks again for the update.
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When I was talking about using other programs for such things as transitions, I was referring to programs like CanopusFX and proDad's Adorage. Both of those have plug-ins that link them to Video Studio so the use of their transitions is in effect done directly within Video Studio. (in effect, you choose 'CanopusFX' which shows up in the list of VS transitions. That then brings up a Customise button which opens the main Canopus program. You choose the transition you want from the Canopus collection, then when you press OK, that transition is inserted into the VS timeline.)
By contrast, Showbiz DVD is a standalone video DVD editing/production program, to an extent a competitor to Video Studio in what it can do. I take it you like some of its templates and transitions. That is fine, but there is no direct link which can link them internally into a VS project. In other words, if you like a particular Showbiz theme for a particular video clip, or want particular Showbiz transitions between specific video clips, then you would have to do that as a project within Showbiz, then render out the project in Showbiz and import the rendered video into Video Studio. The risk with this is that it may then need re-encoding as part of a larger final project in Video Studio, and re-encoding potentially can cause loss of quality...
By contrast, Showbiz DVD is a standalone video DVD editing/production program, to an extent a competitor to Video Studio in what it can do. I take it you like some of its templates and transitions. That is fine, but there is no direct link which can link them internally into a VS project. In other words, if you like a particular Showbiz theme for a particular video clip, or want particular Showbiz transitions between specific video clips, then you would have to do that as a project within Showbiz, then render out the project in Showbiz and import the rendered video into Video Studio. The risk with this is that it may then need re-encoding as part of a larger final project in Video Studio, and re-encoding potentially can cause loss of quality...
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I have two different Hauppauge cards (1 in each of 2 desktop computers)
The best software to use to record the TV (or VHS if you have connected a VHS player) is WinTV2000 - then use VideoStudio to do your editing/authoring.
Sometimes with Hauppauge the "Latest Drivers" do not work as good as "Earlier Version" drivers - everything is a bit hit and miss with the Hauppauge Drivers. To find more drivers you need to visit
http://www.shspvr.com/
The best software to use to record the TV (or VHS if you have connected a VHS player) is WinTV2000 - then use VideoStudio to do your editing/authoring.
Sometimes with Hauppauge the "Latest Drivers" do not work as good as "Earlier Version" drivers - everything is a bit hit and miss with the Hauppauge Drivers. To find more drivers you need to visit
http://www.shspvr.com/
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Hauppauge response re 1600 card and Ulead
I sent a request to Hauppauge to provide information to Ulead on their 1600 card so that VS11 could be enhanced to work with the card. Their response was that Hauppauge has already provided the technical information to Ulead and it is now up to Ulead to release the patch/update to VS11 for that specific card (WINTV PVR 1600 NTSC/ATSC/QAM card).
Is there a method Ulead requires for me to submit an enhancement request for such an update?
Thanks.
Is there a method Ulead requires for me to submit an enhancement request for such an update?
Thanks.
