capture problem with vs11

sjbowler · Post by **sjbowler** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:32 am

i have installed all the updates and currently have version 11.5.0157.2 installed. when i try to capture using my fire wire an error comes up saying: Can not start capture graph
so i am not able to capture.
any ideas?

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:28 am

What are you trying to capture from? VS11/11.5 will not capture via firewire from a Digital 8 camera playing an analogue 8mm tape.

sjbowler · Post by **sjbowler** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:24 am

sory, i forgot that info, i have a sony dcr-hc20 mini dv. i have used video studio 10 and when i upgraded to video studio 11 i was able to capture video using the firewire. i am just not sure sure if it was on my old computer which used xp or my new computer which uses vista

Post by **Ron P.** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:31 am

As Ken stated it will not capture analog, from a Digital 8 (minDV) either having the analog tape inserted into the camcorder, or by using the pass-through. It's a bug with VS11 that Corel refuses to fix.

sjbowler · Post by **sjbowler** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:47 am

i hate to be dense but is there any way of downloading the video to my computer using the firewire? i know i had used vs11 with a video but not sure if i downloaded using vs10 and then importing to vs11. seems to be a bit of a hassle.

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:09 am

You still haven't said whether you are simply trying to capture from a mini DV tape, or whether you are using the camera as a pass-through device to capture analogue video from, say, an analogue camera or VCR.

You can try two things. Windows Movie Maker which comes as part of Windows, will allow you to capture DV format using Firewire. You could also download a free, tiny program called WinDV which specialises in capturing DV, and does so usually with no dropped frames. I use it all the time. You can get it at windv.mourek.cz If you have trouble capturing with it, then I would suspect it is a hardware problem on your end, either with your firewire connection, cable or with the camera's firewire port.

As for it being a hassle using one program to capture and then transferring to another program to edit, many of us do that all the time. In fact, in any one video project, I will often use several different programs for different things. WinDV for capturing, VS for editing, Cool 3D Production Studio or Xara 3D for my titles, CanopusFX or Adorage for transitions, and Movie Factory or DVD Workshop to make the menu, and Nero to burn... Other users have even more programs involved than that. Some programs just do some things better than others...

David Latta · Post by **David Latta** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:23 pm

Ron wrote,

As Ken stated it will not capture analog, from a Digital 8 (minDV) either having the analog tape inserted into the camcorder, or by using the pass-through. It's a bug with VS11 that Corel refuses to fix.

Ron,

Well the VS11+ Patch did fix the Analogue Pass-Thru problem. On my Vista laptop I can pass-thru Analogue from my VCR and 8mm Sharp via my Sony DCR-TRV 330E Digital 8 on Firewire to my computa. What it won't do is allow a capture if the Analogue 8mm is placed in the Digital 8 camera.

David

sjbowler · Post by **sjbowler** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:24 pm

thanks ken & ron. i am trying to capture the video from my camera into my computer so you are saying the vs11 can not do this for me. if you can not capture using the camera what other ways are there to put your mini dv tapes into the computer?
i am able to use windows movie maker to down load the tape but it seems like i spend a lot of money on a program that i can not use???

Post by **Ken Berry** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:50 pm

No, that is not at all what Ron and I have told you. VS11 will normally capture from a mini DV camera connected via Firewire when it is playing a mini DV tape. It will capture high quality DV format which is exactly equivalent to the quality that is on the mini DV tapes since it is really only transferring the contents of the tape in real time.

What VS11/11.5 will not do is transfer the contents of an analogue 8 mm tape which is being played back on a Digital 8 camera connected via Firewire. I happen to have one of those cameras, as well as a mini DV one.

With your camera, if you have it correctly connected via Firewire, then VS 11/11.5 should be able to capture from it, period. Have you tried both of these methods: connect the camera but leave it turned off. Open VS and then turn on the camera to PLAY. The computer should then make the dong ding sound indicating an external device is connecting. Normally, VS will then 'see' the camera, though it might take about 30 seconds to go through the routine of switching on the correct format etc.

If that does not work, then connect the camera and turn it on. Wait for the dong ding sound then open VS. It should also then see the camera. With my computers, both of these approaches work, but with some people, only one or the other works.

Most importantly, does your computer see the camera i.e. do you get the dong ding sound when you connect it?

sjbowler · Post by **sjbowler** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:45 am

the program recognizes the camera(the ding is there) the program shows the sony dv device connected, i can even rewind & play the tape directly from the program, what happens is when i select start capture a warning screen comes up and says: when capturing press the esc key or click capture button again to stop the process, click ok to start capturing video,
so i press ok to start capture process and another warning screen comes up saying: can not start the capture graph. i see the video still playing on both the camera and vs11's preview window but it is not capturing the video.
i have 2 laptops so i tried this same video in my old xp system and camera & program work fine its just when i attach this to my new vista laptop i get this warning/error message

Post by **Ken Berry** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:29 am

Will Windows Movie Maker on the new Vista machine capture DV?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:33 am

From Windows Movie Maker Help file - Vista Home Premium:

You can copy video from a videotape in a digital video (DV) camera to your computer by using Import Video. When you import video from a videotape in a DV camera to your computer, the video on the tape is encoded into a video file and saved to your computer's hard disk.

To import the entire video from a tape in a digital video (DV) camera
Make sure your DV camera is connected to an IEEE 1394 connection or a USB 2.0 connection, and then set the camera mode to play recorded video (often labeled VTR or VCR on a DV camera).

In the Autoplay dialog box that displays when you turn on the DV camera, click Import Video.
In the Name box, type a name for the video file or files that you will create, import, and then save to your computer.
Choose a location to save your video file from the Import to list, or click Browse to choose another location.
In the Format list, choose one of the following video file formats for the new video file, and then click Next:
If you want to create a single file using the filetype that your digital video device uses by default, such as an AVI or DV-AVI file, choose Audio Video Interleaved (single file).
If you want to create a single Windows Media Video (WMV) file containing all of the information on the video tape, choose Windows Media Video File (single file).
If you want to create a WMV file for every scene on the videotape, choose Windows Media Video (one file per scene).
Click Import the entire videotape to my computer, and then click Next.
If you want to stop importing video before the end of the videotape, click Stop, and then click Yes.
Click Finish.

The imported video is saved as one or more video files on your computer and appears in Windows Photo Gallery.