I edited my footage and created a HD-DVD file but, after successfully burning a HD-DVD disk on a regular DVD media , the disk doesn't play smoothly on my Toshiba XA2 hdDVD player. It starts OK but after 1 second the audio and video starts to drop , like a slow motion playback. It looks like it is out of syncro, somehow.
My project was 1440 X 1080 , upper frame first, 25000 constant bitrate. I tried to record the HD-DVD with the same settings and also with a lower (18000) bitrate to no avail.
Can anybody here tell me what possibly is going on ?
VS11+ with update and PoerPack, full version.
Many thanks
Sergio
Can't burn a perfect HD-DVD from Canon HV20 footage
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Can't burn a perfect HD-DVD from Canon HV20 footage
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The MPEG2 file plays OK on my PC. An image of the file also plays OK on my Playstation3. I have other HD-DVDs created from other MPREG2 files that play OK on my XA2 player. It must be something with the settings. I will do some more tests and will report if something is found.
Thanks
Sergio
Thanks
Sergio
HP9080n
Canon HV20
Canon HV20
If you used a DVD+R dvd use DVD-R.
The toshiba players are very picky when it comes to DVD+R dvd's.
This is a common problem with the Toshiba players & DVD+R disks.
If you burn a DVD-R single-sided dvd, it should work fine.
Can't say the same for DL-DVD's. That is also a problem and many persons only use Verbatim disks when making DL-DVD's for the Toshiba players. It's also suggested to create an image ISO file first, then burn the ISO file as a separate process (when burning DL-DVD's)
The toshiba players are very picky when it comes to DVD+R dvd's.
This is a common problem with the Toshiba players & DVD+R disks.
If you burn a DVD-R single-sided dvd, it should work fine.
Can't say the same for DL-DVD's. That is also a problem and many persons only use Verbatim disks when making DL-DVD's for the Toshiba players. It's also suggested to create an image ISO file first, then burn the ISO file as a separate process (when burning DL-DVD's)
If you have a PS3 you should try this.
Open VS11+ go directly to "Share -> Create Disk -> AVCHD".
Goto Preferences and assign your working folder to a large drive and make other settings meet your needs.
Click on the GEAR Icon & change your project settings to 1440x1080 Upper Field First 18MBS Variable bit Rate with Dolby Audio.
15MBS Constant bit Rate is also good video (even lower).
When you encode at 18MBS Variable Bit Rate the Average bit rate will be about 11MBS to 12MBS so the filesize is not that big.
The will allow about 46 minutes of avchd/h264 on a single sided dvd.
While still in the Burning Module:
On the timeline insert your highdef mpeg2 videos that are 25MBS CBR.
Make a menu, and burn a dvd.
Plays on the PS3 same as a dvd. This is a high defintion AVCHD Disk.
You can also get the PS3 to playback mpeg2@25MBS from this avchd disk, takes some work to do this.
To get your avc/h264 videos back from the dvd as files use the VS11+ import feature. If using Vista you can also copy them from the STREAMS folder.
Open VS11+ go directly to "Share -> Create Disk -> AVCHD".
Goto Preferences and assign your working folder to a large drive and make other settings meet your needs.
Click on the GEAR Icon & change your project settings to 1440x1080 Upper Field First 18MBS Variable bit Rate with Dolby Audio.
15MBS Constant bit Rate is also good video (even lower).
When you encode at 18MBS Variable Bit Rate the Average bit rate will be about 11MBS to 12MBS so the filesize is not that big.
The will allow about 46 minutes of avchd/h264 on a single sided dvd.
While still in the Burning Module:
On the timeline insert your highdef mpeg2 videos that are 25MBS CBR.
Make a menu, and burn a dvd.
Plays on the PS3 same as a dvd. This is a high defintion AVCHD Disk.
You can also get the PS3 to playback mpeg2@25MBS from this avchd disk, takes some work to do this.
To get your avc/h264 videos back from the dvd as files use the VS11+ import feature. If using Vista you can also copy them from the STREAMS folder.
Etech6355
Thank you very much. It looks like you are right regarding the DVD+R. I use DVD+R DL from Verbatim but my Toshiba doesn't like them. I reduced my project to fit in a single DVD-R and it played fine. Unfortunately I only have DVD+R DL and I can't record my whole movie on a HD-DVD.
I am now doing what you suggested about the AVCHD disk but I had to reduce the bitrate to variable 14000 to fit a 43 minutes movie on a single DVD-R DVD. I will post the results soon.
This is a great board!
Sergio
Thank you very much. It looks like you are right regarding the DVD+R. I use DVD+R DL from Verbatim but my Toshiba doesn't like them. I reduced my project to fit in a single DVD-R and it played fine. Unfortunately I only have DVD+R DL and I can't record my whole movie on a HD-DVD.
I am now doing what you suggested about the AVCHD disk but I had to reduce the bitrate to variable 14000 to fit a 43 minutes movie on a single DVD-R DVD. I will post the results soon.
This is a great board!
Sergio
HP9080n
Canon HV20
Canon HV20
For the Dual-layered DVD's you may want to create an ISO image file first on the harddisk. Then burn the ISO image file, I've heard this works better. I also have gone through the DL dilemma with HD-DVD. It's a pain, not everyones workflow is exactly the same to get the DL's to work.
When you playback the disc on the PS3 hit the Select button on the controller, while the video is playing back, The PS3 will display the bit-rates in real-time along with audio/video specs.
This would be the "Display" button on the Blu-Ray remote (add-on).
If you hit the triangle you get more options for playback & information.
When I encode the videos at 18MBS VBR (variable bit rate) the average ends up being 11MBS to 12MBS..
Even at 14MBS VBR the videos should still look pretty damn nice for the given bit-rate, but I think after you view the videos they will be encoded at about 9MBS average..
You may find after encoding in VBR that the 14MBS avchd videos end up with an average of 9MBS.I am now doing what you suggested about the AVCHD disk but I had to reduce the bitrate to variable 14000 to fit a 43 minutes movie on a single DVD-R DVD.
When you playback the disc on the PS3 hit the Select button on the controller, while the video is playing back, The PS3 will display the bit-rates in real-time along with audio/video specs.
This would be the "Display" button on the Blu-Ray remote (add-on).
If you hit the triangle you get more options for playback & information.
When I encode the videos at 18MBS VBR (variable bit rate) the average ends up being 11MBS to 12MBS..
Even at 14MBS VBR the videos should still look pretty damn nice for the given bit-rate, but I think after you view the videos they will be encoded at about 9MBS average..
Your math is correct. Average bitrate is close to 9 and the video looks pretty good . I will do the same at 18000 using a DL DVD+R this time and I'm pretty sure the result will be fantastic.
I am now creating a ISO HD-DVD file and will burn it using Roxio Creator 10 on a Verbatin DVD+R DL, according to your suggestion. I tell you if it works.
Many thanks again. You made my day.
Sergio
I am now creating a ISO HD-DVD file and will burn it using Roxio Creator 10 on a Verbatin DVD+R DL, according to your suggestion. I tell you if it works.
Many thanks again. You made my day.
Sergio
HP9080n
Canon HV20
Canon HV20
No dice. The ISO/burn method produced the same result I looked at the Toshiba manual and it says it supports DVD-R and DVD-RW. No mention to "+R" , which means we can't complain. If I fast forward to the middle of the movie and press play, it works fine but from the start point all I can see and hear is a lot of dropouts. No DVD+R on my Tosh any longer.
Sergio
Sergio
HP9080n
Canon HV20
Canon HV20
sl2008,
It's probably your burner & the media. I burnt some that worked, and then some didn't work. It's simply a compatibility issue. If you can get the correct combination burner & verbatim disks they work. Like you did after reading the specs saying dvd-r or dvd-rw I gave up. I've never had a problem yet burning any DL DVD's and playing them back in the PS3. The blu-ray reader in the PS3 does a great job.
Another tippo!
The files on the AVCHD disks you are making reside in the STREAMS folder on the AVCHD disk. The large ones are the actual videos & the smaller ones are the menus.
Using Vista you can simply copy these 00001.m2ts files back to your harddisk. They are AVCHD Compliant and do not have to re-encoded again to put onto a new AVCHD disk (unless you edit them, good luck editing avchd video). Rename them to a more user friendly name.
Now after you have made a few AVCHD disks you can reuse these videos. They are compliant. Simply copy them back to your harddisk (Vista Only)
Start VS and again go directly into the AVCHD disk creation module. Under the GEAR icon make sure the "Do Not Convert xxxx" is checked ON. Insert the compliant avchd/h264 videos, create menus and burn another avchd disk. In the burning stage you will immediately see the program start the multi-plexing and not re-encoding. This is very fast to burn another avchd disk and you already know the file sizes.
The same I posted above also holds true for the BDMV blu-ray disk format when they become more affordable to burn.
When the Blu-Ray disks are more affordable one can put avchd and hd-mpeg2 on the Blu-Ray disk. If the source videos are compliant they also will not be re-encoded.
Note: For users using windows XP that cannot read the avchd disks you get your videos back to the harddisk using the Import DVD/-VR avchd function. The videos after being imported reside under the assigned working folder in a folder called capture.
It's probably your burner & the media. I burnt some that worked, and then some didn't work. It's simply a compatibility issue. If you can get the correct combination burner & verbatim disks they work. Like you did after reading the specs saying dvd-r or dvd-rw I gave up. I've never had a problem yet burning any DL DVD's and playing them back in the PS3. The blu-ray reader in the PS3 does a great job.
Another tippo!
The files on the AVCHD disks you are making reside in the STREAMS folder on the AVCHD disk. The large ones are the actual videos & the smaller ones are the menus.
Using Vista you can simply copy these 00001.m2ts files back to your harddisk. They are AVCHD Compliant and do not have to re-encoded again to put onto a new AVCHD disk (unless you edit them, good luck editing avchd video). Rename them to a more user friendly name.
Now after you have made a few AVCHD disks you can reuse these videos. They are compliant. Simply copy them back to your harddisk (Vista Only)
Start VS and again go directly into the AVCHD disk creation module. Under the GEAR icon make sure the "Do Not Convert xxxx" is checked ON. Insert the compliant avchd/h264 videos, create menus and burn another avchd disk. In the burning stage you will immediately see the program start the multi-plexing and not re-encoding. This is very fast to burn another avchd disk and you already know the file sizes.
The same I posted above also holds true for the BDMV blu-ray disk format when they become more affordable to burn.
When the Blu-Ray disks are more affordable one can put avchd and hd-mpeg2 on the Blu-Ray disk. If the source videos are compliant they also will not be re-encoded.
Note: For users using windows XP that cannot read the avchd disks you get your videos back to the harddisk using the Import DVD/-VR avchd function. The videos after being imported reside under the assigned working folder in a folder called capture.