MF6+ HD Pack

DPT · Post by **DPT** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:21 am

I have a few questions about this plug in:

- Does it come free with MF6+
- Is there any other blu ray burning feature (or plug in) for MF6+
- Can the HD Pack (or other feature) be used to burn blu ray to standard DVD-/+R disks as well as proper blu ray disks
- Can the HD Pack be used standalone or with any other software

Please don't refer me to more ambiguous promotional material.

Thanks

Post by **Ron P.** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:58 am

What is it that you don't understand???

I posted here http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 419#138419 that they sell a plug-in that is needed for DVDMF6+ to burn HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs. All you needed to do is view the webpage I provided the link to.

This is not free.

Since they offer this for sale, at $19.99, do you really think they are going to provide it free with a trial version? Come on, you're intelligent enough to have figured that out..

DPT · Post by **DPT** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:05 pm

yes, sorry, I have now worked that out. Its just that in the PDF for the HD Pack it says

You can author BDMV movies and burn them onto 50GB or 25GB Blu-ray discs

I wondered, given the economy with the actualite in Ulead blurb whether this means it won't author BDMV files to DVD-R disks?

Thanks

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:26 pm

That's not the blu-ray format.
If you want to make Blu-Ray Disks that have menus like dvd's do then you would have to buy MF6+ and the HD-Add-On Pack.
MF6+ as is without the HD-Add-On pack will burn what's known as a BDAV disk. A BDAV disk contains only videos (with playlists), no menus.

They can't make a program that's writes a format to a dvd and then will not playback in the players. Blu-Ray Players do not support DVD's burnt using the BDMV directory structure.

MF6+ with the HD-Add-on Pack makes AVCHD disks that play on blu-ray players.
AVCHD is the Blu-Ray Format for High Definition on DVD's or Blu-Ray Disks. The AVCHD format is a better choice to put HighDef on a DVD.

Even if you could write the directories of a BDMV to a dvd (which you can do this). The disk will not play in a Blu-Ray Player. You can burn a BDMV structure to a DVD and play it back in the computer using Nero 8 Ultra with the plugin.

Do you have a blu-ray burner or a blu-ray player?
If not by next year prices will be more reasonable. I heard of some new blu-ray burners coming out next month. Still expensive though.

alluringreality · Post by **alluringreality** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:48 pm

etech6355 wrote:Blu-Ray Players do not support DVD's burnt using the BDMV directory structure.

That's not entirely correct. My BDP-S1 will play the Blu-ray (BDMV) option from the HD Pack on DVD if it's burnt with UDF 2.5 or 2.6. It will not play on the PS3 though. There is talk that the PS3 can play BDMV with modifications, but I cannot verify that talk. I sent a TsRemux Blu-ray with mpeg2 video to another guy for testing, but I don't know yet if it worked as AVCHD or not on the PS3.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:56 am

That's not entirely correct. My BDP-S1 will play the Blu-ray (BDMV) option from the HD Pack on DVD if it's burnt with UDF 2.5 or 2.6

So I take it you are creating BDMV folders on your harddisk, then burning the BDMV folder in Nero as UDF 2.5 or 2.6. Because MF6+ will not burn a dvd from the Blu-Ray disk module.

I didn't try the BDP-S1 ( can't remember ), I did try the Sony S300, the PS3, a panasonic, pioneer, samsung. None of these players would play a Blu-Ray Disk Structure burnt to dvd. They all played the AVCHD disks.

Does the BDP-S1 play the menus? Along with a hd-mpeg2 video encoded at 25MBS? Or in the BDP-S1 do you have to use any options.

It's a challenge to do this, then we are back to 20 minutes per single layer dvd.
At least the AVCHD codec can give you more than double until Blu-Ray becomes more cost effective.
I just made an AVCHD with 90+ minutes of a DL-DVD. That's good enough for now I guess ( no other choice, right? )
You can get 2 hours on a DL dvd is you stay with 15MBS Variable bit rate, the average bit rate ends up around 9MBS to 10MBS. I've been using 18MBS max VBR (variable bit rate), the videos end up average 11MBS-12MBS. So 12MBS is 90megs per minute.
1 single sided DVD (4.370gig)with a safety buffer is
( 4200Megs / 90Megs )= 46Minutes per single layer DVD.

alluringreality · Post by **alluringreality** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:59 am

I was burning the Blu-ray option with Nero and UDF set. For what we're doing (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496) mpeg2 is actually preferable so that we could use the same encode for both HD DVD and AVCHD. At this time it looks like we're going to go H264 even though it requires to encodes and two error checks.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:15 am

I think I did try the S1 blu-ray player. Thinking about it these are store floor models and have the original firmware. So they don't update the firmware in them. Unless I was doing something wrong.