MSP8 and DMF6+. Can they coexist?

WitekM · Post by **WitekM** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:39 pm

Hi all,

Created restore point, bought and downloaded DMF6+ and HD pak. Installed, registerd, created few HD-DVD on DVD-R/DL media. Peachy, not.

Went to MSP8 to create some more material and stuff hit the fan. Got this not cool message in MSP8 "Cannot load MPEG encoder"

Restored to my saved point, MPEG in MSP8 works. Installed DMF6+ again. No go. Same error message in MSP8. Can they coexist?

Witek.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:55 pm

Yes they can co-exist but I have noticed that after installing MF6 the MSP8 import from DVD function fails to work but I have previously posted a work round.

Fix: Import DVD (VOB) Files DMF/VS/MSP

WitekM · Post by **WitekM** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:55 pm

Uninstalled both programs, deleted folders from user and program files, cleaned up registry, reinstalled DMF6 then MSP8. Still getting same error.

Witek.

etech6355 · Post by **etech6355** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:29 pm

Remove the c:\program files\common files\ulead systems directory completely. You will have to terminate the ULCDRsrv.exe driver running resident in memory to delete this directory (XP).

Re-install MSP8 and it will rebuild this directory, install the patches for MSP8 and that should fix your problem with MSP8.

Can you post back if this fixes your problem. If it does fix your problem, then IF you install MF6+ again the problem will pop up again.
This would show a file conflict in the above common files\ulead systems directory.

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sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:20 am

I see you are using 4 x 80G drives in a Raid configuration.
Not a user of raid myself but you could consider using the 4 hard drives in a completely different way and creating a multi boot system.
you could then dedicate one of those hard drives to video editing and probably prevent strange anomalies caused by conflicting software.

I have several Ulead programs installed quite happily with each other - just see my signature block.

Take a look at a reply I gave another user a short while ago
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 306#138306

WitekM · Post by **WitekM** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:28 am

etech6355 wrote:Remove the c:\program files\common files\ulead systems directory completely. You will have to terminate the ULCDRsrv.exe driver running resident in memory to delete this directory (XP).

Re-install MSP8 and it will rebuild this directory, install the patches for MSP8 and that should fix your problem with MSP8.

Can you post back if this fixes your problem. If it does fix your problem, then IF you install MF6+ again the problem will pop up again.
This would show a file conflict in the above common files\ulead systems directory.

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I took slightly different approach. Left DMF6+ alone and installed MSP8 on different partition. Still under same OS. All works fine now.

It does surprise me however that two products from same company would step on each others toes like that.

Witek.

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:42 am

WitekM wrote:.......It does surprise me however that two products from same company would step on each others toes like that.

Witek.

It stems from the old days when computers were not so big and powerful as they are now. Programmers would place files used by two or more programs into a common files directory so that you have one copy rather than several. Another example of programmers finding ways to save hard drive space was using 2 digits to represent the year of a date such as 29/11/07 instead of 29/11/2007 - hence we had a lot of concern about the "Millenium bug" at the turn of the Centrury.

Today there is no need for a common files directory - hard drives are so huge that all necessary files for a program can be kept in each individual program directory. Unfortunately it seems programmers are still using the common files method and what happens is that some shared dll files get updated for a particular program. The update makes that dll incompatible with other programs sharing that dll file and "crash bang whallop"

I have drawn the attention of Corel to a number of these conflicting files as a result of Users on this forum reporting conflicts which have later been confirmed by other forum members.

WitekM · Post by **WitekM** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:45 am

sjj1805 wrote:I see you are using 4 x 80G drives in a Raid configuration.
Not a user of raid myself but you could consider using the 4 hard drives in a completely different way and creating a multi boot system.
you could then dedicate one of those hard drives to video editing and probably prevent strange anomalies caused by conflicting software.

I have several Ulead programs installed quite happily with each other - just see my signature block.

Take a look at a reply I gave another user a short while ago
http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic. ... 306#138306

My RAID0 is set up as 2x2. Two drives on each SATA channel. Since most of video editing in I/O bound I use one array as source other as destination. Never had a dropped frame.

I do like your approach with separate drive multi boot. My next system will use flash memory drive for OS and applications and traditional hard drives for storage.

Witek.