I'm trying to run DVD MovieFactory 5.50.0064.0 (for Sanyo) on a Laptop PC running Vista Ultimate. The programme was bundled with an Xacti HD2 digital movie camera (very good). The programme has installed and opens but then "stops working" and closes as soon as I load a file (mp4). I've tried updating the V5 patches and Vista patch from http://www.ulead.com/tech/dmf/dmf_ftp_50.htm but I now get the message:
"Setup cannot find Ulead DVD MovieFactory 5 installed on your system"
Does anyone have any idea what's going on - do I junk DVD MovieFactory or Vista!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DVD MovieFactory 5 for Sanyo
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heinz-oz
I better don't answer the last question 
If the program came with your camera, chances are it is an SE version. The website has this disclaimer
If the program came with your camera, chances are it is an SE version. The website has this disclaimer
There is no mention of any SE version. You may have to upgrade to the full version insteadThis Update Pack is for Ulead® DVD MovieFactory® 5 (BOX, ESD, UPG, and activated TBYB) version.
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Scubaman31
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It will be similar to the "Free" copy of DVD MovieFactory 5 that came with my 2 Toshiba laptop computers that both have Vista Home Premium pre-installed.
The version of MovieFactory is a specially modified one and the splash screen reads DVD MovieFactory for Toshiba.
You will note the letters SE - this stands for "Special Edition" though we here prefer to call it "Simple Edition" - although it is an excellent program it is in some way crippled. You cannot install patches and updates but it will be a qualifying product for an upgrade.
Because I already own several versions of MovieFactory it as only recently whilst checking a user query on this forum that I discovered one of the limitations of the "Free" copy. It was quite surprising but it does not support JPG images when creating slide shows!! I think the majority of digital cameras nowadays take their pictures in that format. Even more surprising was that it DID support JPG2000.
You should think of the "Free" version that came pre-installed on your computer as a never ending free trial version.
The version of MovieFactory is a specially modified one and the splash screen reads DVD MovieFactory for Toshiba.
You will note the letters SE - this stands for "Special Edition" though we here prefer to call it "Simple Edition" - although it is an excellent program it is in some way crippled. You cannot install patches and updates but it will be a qualifying product for an upgrade.
Because I already own several versions of MovieFactory it as only recently whilst checking a user query on this forum that I discovered one of the limitations of the "Free" copy. It was quite surprising but it does not support JPG images when creating slide shows!! I think the majority of digital cameras nowadays take their pictures in that format. Even more surprising was that it DID support JPG2000.
You should think of the "Free" version that came pre-installed on your computer as a never ending free trial version.
I cannot get the full version of MF6+ with it's patches to import or insert MP4 video, neither on XP or Vista.
I've been able to use VS11+ with it's patches to import Sanyo sample MP4 videos some have posted on the internet.
VS11+ reports that these HD videos are 1280x720 progressive encoded at 9000kbs H264 with AAC audio.
I think if you search the MF forum other Sanyo users have upgraded to MF6+ full retail version and still couldn't import the Sanyo MP4 videos.
I've been able to use VS11+ with it's patches to import Sanyo sample MP4 videos some have posted on the internet.
VS11+ reports that these HD videos are 1280x720 progressive encoded at 9000kbs H264 with AAC audio.
I think if you search the MF forum other Sanyo users have upgraded to MF6+ full retail version and still couldn't import the Sanyo MP4 videos.
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Scubaman31
etech6355,
Thanks for your comments.
Very worrying if Sanyo has bundled a piece of s/w that won't import the files produced by the Xacti camera! I'm begining to wonder whether the version of MF5 I've got is a special to Sanyo. My "about screen" does not identify it as an SE version rather the version number is followed by the phrase "for Sanyo".
Nevertheless, the manual suggets updates are available via www.ulead.com?? Confusing. I'm also begining to suspect that Vista may be the cause of the problem and I'll reinstall on an XP system to check it out.
Thanks for your comments.
Very worrying if Sanyo has bundled a piece of s/w that won't import the files produced by the Xacti camera! I'm begining to wonder whether the version of MF5 I've got is a special to Sanyo. My "about screen" does not identify it as an SE version rather the version number is followed by the phrase "for Sanyo".
Nevertheless, the manual suggets updates are available via www.ulead.com?? Confusing. I'm also begining to suspect that Vista may be the cause of the problem and I'll reinstall on an XP system to check it out.
I see your running Vista, which the operating system itself doesn't really support MP4 video. Individual programs can, XP does as an operating system.
Your version is a special build, made for Sanyo. I know the H264/MP4 decoder codecs for MF that came with your version are located under the MF installation directory. Moving those codecs to a new MF6+ installation would be hit & miss.
Before you spend money on any software I would recommend downloading either "SUPER" or "Avidemux2" and see it these programs can trim or convert the videos into an editable format. Then you can use the the video created by these programs in any video editor. The reason I say this is the sample videos I downloaded took awhile for me to convert. You will have to learn whether to convert them, what format is best to convert them to, leave them as is for playback only, calculate conversion times and all.
The programs "SUPER" or "Avidemux2" are nice because they don't share their codecs with the operating system. The programs run in their own environment, so they don't affect the multi-media applications installed on the windows machine.
I recommend trying "Super" first. Avidemux2 requires video experience and many manual settings, particular to the codec & container.
These new video formats use very high compressed codecs, making them hard to edit or convert. We are all learning this new High Def field.
Your version is a special build, made for Sanyo. I know the H264/MP4 decoder codecs for MF that came with your version are located under the MF installation directory. Moving those codecs to a new MF6+ installation would be hit & miss.
Before you spend money on any software I would recommend downloading either "SUPER" or "Avidemux2" and see it these programs can trim or convert the videos into an editable format. Then you can use the the video created by these programs in any video editor. The reason I say this is the sample videos I downloaded took awhile for me to convert. You will have to learn whether to convert them, what format is best to convert them to, leave them as is for playback only, calculate conversion times and all.
The programs "SUPER" or "Avidemux2" are nice because they don't share their codecs with the operating system. The programs run in their own environment, so they don't affect the multi-media applications installed on the windows machine.
I recommend trying "Super" first. Avidemux2 requires video experience and many manual settings, particular to the codec & container.
These new video formats use very high compressed codecs, making them hard to edit or convert. We are all learning this new High Def field.
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ricland
But the problem with converting is the dramatic loss in quality, right? And that seems to defeat the whole purpose.etech6355 wrote:I see your running Vista, which the operating system itself doesn't really support MP4 video. Individual programs can, XP does as an operating system.
Your version is a special build, made for Sanyo. I know the H264/MP4 decoder codecs for MF that came with your version are located under the MF installation directory. Moving those codecs to a new MF6+ installation would be hit & miss.
Before you spend money on any software I would recommend downloading either "SUPER" or "Avidemux2" and see it these programs can trim or convert the videos into an editable format. Then you can use the the video created by these programs in any video editor. The reason I say this is the sample videos I downloaded took awhile for me to convert. You will have to learn whether to convert them, what format is best to convert them to, leave them as is for playback only, calculate conversion times and all.
The programs "SUPER" or "Avidemux2" are nice because they don't share their codecs with the operating system. The programs run in their own environment, so they don't affect the multi-media applications installed on the windows machine.
I recommend trying "Super" first. Avidemux2 requires video experience and many manual settings, particular to the codec & container.
These new video formats use very high compressed codecs, making them hard to edit or convert. We are all learning this new High Def field.
I'm running Vista and with it MF5 can open mp4, but with no audio. Conversely, MF6 can't open or import mp4 at all.
I'm amazed that Sanyo would bundle MF5 with the Xacti when it doesn't work with the xacti's native format, mp4.
ric
First it depends on your target. How do you intend to playback the videos you recorded. There is no dramatic loss in quality if you use the correct codecs & software for conversions. DVD's is still the standard for distributing your videos.But the problem with converting is the dramatic loss in quality, right? And that seems to defeat the whole purpose.
A dvd has less resolution than the source 1280x720 videos from the Sanyo camcorder. DVD's are standard definition & the Sanyo is High Definition so the dvd should look excellent in standard defintion
The version of MF5SE that came with the Sanyo Camcorder is to make Dvd's.
If you really want to edit your videos like a standard camcorder (dv camcorder) that records to tape you picked the wrong camcorder and the wrong format to record in.
Otherwise you must convert them into an editable format. VS11+ & MF6+ with the latest patches does a nice job of converting them into editable formats.
Another codec to use for conversions is called the CineFormHD Codec. The cineformhd codec files can be edited without loss.
To record High Definition (HDV) I recommend using a tape based HDV camcorder that records in the hd-mpeg2 format. The HDV mpeg2 files can sustain a few re-renders without a high loss of quality.
Sony HC1/HC3/HC5/HC7, Canon HV10/HV20
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ricland
I'm not sure I follow everything being said. I know, however, that if I save a clip even in mp4 in mf5 than compare it to the original clip, I get quality loss.
However, just tested a save from mp4 to mpeg and it's much better although I see a slight loss in quality here too.
And I've tried Super and not pleased with the lose.
Avidemux takes far too longer to render.
Any ideas why I don't get audio with mf5? I'm using Vista on my dell laptop with 2 megs of ram. I get audio when editing alright with mf6, but the problem with mp6 is it doesn't import my mp4s.
ric
However, just tested a save from mp4 to mpeg and it's much better although I see a slight loss in quality here too.
And I've tried Super and not pleased with the lose.
Avidemux takes far too longer to render.
Any ideas why I don't get audio with mf5? I'm using Vista on my dell laptop with 2 megs of ram. I get audio when editing alright with mf6, but the problem with mp6 is it doesn't import my mp4s.
ric
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You will have to check the documentation that came with it all to see what operating system(s) are supported.ricland wrote:.......I'm amazed that Sanyo would bundle MF5 with the Xacti when it doesn't work with the xacti's native format, mp4.
ric
If you have Windows XP then no doubt the "Free" version that came with your camcorder will work as expected. Perhaps Sanyo created this bundle before the release of Vista. Even if you only recently purchased it - it may have been in a warehouse/shop for several months before you purchased it.
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marshalab
I have the same camera on windows xp
...and I get the message no capture driver is available in the system...any thoughts?
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Re: I have the same camera on windows xp
And what what capture device is it that your computer is not playing ball with?marshalab wrote:...and I get the message no capture driver is available in the system...any thoughts?