Transisitions & Time

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:46 pm

Ray Musicbear wrote:THoff, good idea, I need to try that one too! How do I change
the playback speed for the split audio track?

Right-click on the video, then choose "Split Audio" to separate the audio from the video. When you click on the audio track, the Audio panel will let you change the playback speed -- you can specify a percentage relative to the original speed, or you can specify a duration.

Ray Musicbear · Post by **Ray Musicbear** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:07 pm

Hi THoff,

When I click on my audio track, all I see is "duration."
Nothing about playback speed... Nothing about percentages.
I'm using UVS8.

I do not want to change the "duration" and shorthen the audio
track, ony change the playback speed.

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:43 pm

My bad, it's another feature new to UVS 9.

OK, try this then. Download the free Audacity Audio Editor, load the audio track (saved from UVS) into it, and use the "Change Tempo" feature on the "Effects" menu to change the duration of the audio track without changing the pitch (so you don't wind up sounding like a chipmunk).

Ray Musicbear · Post by **Ray Musicbear** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:45 am

Hi THoff,

Thanks again...

BTW, I do have UVS9 upgrade...
I'm not using it on this project however, because since this project was started with UVS8, it seemed when I opened the .vsp file in UVS9, some of the effects and pans etc. I had worked so hard on did not transfer correctly and were "off," if you know what I mean.

So, rather than dealing with the headache of retracing all my steps just to use UVS9, which by the way, as a side-comment, to me seems to run overall "slower" than UVS8 on my computer, I decided to finish the job with UVS8. Also, I am following "all" the "Read This First" steps outlined in the web board posting.

This is, btw, my first project using Video Studio. I have done another video, on my web site, but that was just a test and done with Video Edit Magic.

Anyway, thanks for the reccomendation of the FREE program, I will download it and try your suggestion after I add my transisitions. However, at this point in my video work, I've done without the transisitions thus far, and just may continue that path to the end of the project.

Thanks again for your input!

THoff · Post by **THoff** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:02 am

If you have UVS9, you could load the audio track into it just to change the duration, save it back out, and load it into your UVS8 project...

Trevor Andrew · Post by **Trevor Andrew** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:32 am

Hi

You do not need to split audio in order to create a sound file, the wav file can be made from the video track, from Share.

Ray Musicbear · Post by **Ray Musicbear** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:00 pm

Hi Everyone...

Again, thanks to everyone for all the useful comments; I've been trying all of your suggestions. It just seems like this video was not meant to have transisitions... I have NOT tried Trevor Andrew's suggestion yet. I am hopeful that his suggestions might work for me.

Does anyone have any final suggestions for future music video projects that I have, that might avoid all the problems I'm having inserting transisions? How would you do it?

To re-cap my method in my music videos: I like the idea of performing them live, recording audio and video at the same time, then capturing the one file into UVS and then adding all the bells and whistles on top of that main video.

Is there a better way? Curious to hear any comments from others who might have done music videos especially.

thecoalman · Post by **thecoalman** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:17 pm

Ray Musicbear wrote:
Is there a better way? Curious to hear any comments from others who might have done music videos especially.

Well I think I understand what your doing but not why? Your adding transitions to the video just for the effect of the transition? I've created quite a few DVD's for a local band and except for the opening titles,credits etc. I haven't done anything to it.

As for a suggestion I have few.... Use two cams borrow one if you can, use overlays to create affects, try using cool3-d to create some overlays and probably the best suggestion give MSP a try. There's a whole lot more you can do with it compared to VS. Happy editing

bobfrank · Post by **bobfrank** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:09 pm

The previous poster bought up a good point. Are you trying to put transitions into a continous shot, with one camera, of you singing? Are you trying to cut in audience or scenic,etc. shots taken later or with another camera? Or is this t multiple camera shoot that you're trying to use transitions to go from one camera to another?

If it's one continous, one camera, shot of you I don't understand what transitions you would use and what their benefit would be.

If it is a one shot, one camera, clip and you just want to add some variety I would suggest you insert audience shots or scenic shots taken at another time. These could be added in and still keep your audio in sync. You would just have to make them enough longer or shorter to compensate for that the transition is doing. If you just want a cross fade you can just put the additional shot on the overlay track and do a fade in/out on it.

kebrinton · Post by **kebrinton** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:15 pm

This thing of transitions shortening the total time of two clips blows my mind! What a price to pay for an effect! I couldn't believe what I was reading. But over the weekend I saw a friend's home video and realized that if you're going to begin to see the next clip fading in under the present clip which is fading out, then of course they have to overlap in a way they did not before you chose that transition.

But how about the clip I most often use: fade-to-black (and back)? I don't see why this transition would require any shortening. Basically it's only causing the tail-end of the first clip to fade, and the new clip to appear slowly. I think it was Jerry Jones who explained that a one-second fade-to-black works on the last half-second of the first clip and the first half-second of the next clip. Not rocket science when you think abou it.

So all in all different transitions work differently. With travel videos it's hardly noticeable, but I have recorded a lot of musical shows, and putting them on DVD will require a new kind of attention, now that I know this.

Keith[/i]

Ray Musicbear · Post by **Ray Musicbear** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:43 pm

In answer to TheCoalMan & BobFrank...

Yes, it is one continuous shot of my singing, and partly the reason I am adding the transisitions is for the very effect of the transistions themsevles.

I want to create the "effect" of having used two cams, even though I only used one. I thought, by adding transisitions, and then perhaps using a zoomed in or zoomed out shot, or changing the brighness or contrast, and using filters following the transisition, I would acheive this efffect of having used different cams from different angles.

I am doing pretty well however simply using overlays, but I really wanted to put in as much variety as I could for this particular video I'm working on.

Thanks for your insight; perhaps using all these transisitions with all the overlays is too much of a good thing! Old adage; Less Is More...

MikeGunter · Post by **MikeGunter** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:52 pm

Ray Musicbear wrote:In answer to TheCoalMan & BobFrank...

Yes, it is one continuous shot of my singing, and partly the reason I am adding the transisitions is for the very effect of the transistions themsevles.

I want to create the "effect" of having used two cams, even though I only used one. I thought, by adding transisitions, and then perhaps using a zoomed in or zoomed out shot, or changing the brighness or contrast, and using filters following the transisition, I would acheive this efffect of having used different cams from different angles.

I am doing pretty well however simply using overlays, but I really wanted to put in as much variety as I could for this particular video I'm working on.

Thanks for your insight; perhaps using all these transisitions with all the overlays is too much of a good thing! Old adage; Less Is More...

Hi,

Then why not razor on the timeline, copy the clip and paste the copied clip to the overlay track?

Mike

bobfrank · Post by **bobfrank** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:06 am

Take some video of trees, clouds, traffic, people dancing, kids playing or whatever would go along with the music and don't forget some audience shots (doesn't have to be your audience). Overlay these with transitions. That should help give you the variety you're looking for.

Not much else you can do with a one camera shot.

MikeGunter · Post by **MikeGunter** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:46 am

Here's a clarification.

The easiest way is to split the video as you have done, on the Project View, with the cutting tool.

Copy the clip to the bin, but leave the original one there.

You can then use the copy on the overlay track and not lose sync with audio.

You could make new projects, merge the tracks or use transitions and lay them down as new overlay.

Naturally, you'll want to go to the audio mixer, select track 2, and mute it.

A mixture (pun intended

), will produce excellent work.

Mike

Ray Musicbear · Post by **Ray Musicbear** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:47 am

Hi MikeGunter and BobFrank!

Thanks so much for your very helpful replies guys!
You have my imagination going!

You have given me some great ideas, and I've already
tried some of your suggestions and they are working out
beautifully!

I'll post a link to the finished product when done here!
All of you guys that helped me out with your suggestions
on this video can share in the triumph!

Thanks & Hugz!