Hi everyone... I am looking for some advice... I know these things take time to master, but here is the story to soften your heart so I get your advice. My Sony DVD505 camcorder broke, I used to finalize DVD (mini), then import DVD in Ulead Studio 10v. As they couldn't fix my camera, they issued a refund and I purchased a Sony HDR-UX7 (AVCHD). I am about to get on the road on a trip to Niagara Falls and I want to make sure I get good video. My problem is I want to capture the best possible video, so I will be recording in HD. I dont' have a blue-ray or HD DVD recorder, so I will eventually be downsampling to DVD quality, but I want to retain my DVD's so I can do HD when the technology price comes down.
But how do I import AVCHD videos to Ulead Studio 10v? Will I be able to do this from a regular DVD ROM? I am about to leave... Big problem is if I wont' be able to import, I will just record in Standard Definition, but I would love to go HD. I hope you can help me out.
I am leaving this weekend and my work schedule before vacation is crazy, no much time to play around with my new toy. I apologize if this has been discussed before. I hope you can point me in the right direction.
New HD Camera, help with workflow...
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I would shoot both in HD & SD but definitely use separate disks.
VideoStudio 10+ will not work with HD AVCHD, only HighDefinition Mpeg2 video.
To work with VS & HighDefintion you would need to use VideoStudio 11+ or MovieFactory 6+.
If you didn't buy VS11+ yet you can also use MovieFactory 6+. I find MF6+ a little easier for new users to learn the workflow. My opinion of course. It outputs nice quality videos.
Some advice when shooting in HD mode with your camcorder. Hold the camcorder as steady as possible. When you pan & move/scan the scenery go very slow. When recording try to pause in between close recording sessions and not end the recording so the disk doesn't end up with hundreds of small 20 seconds clips that will be hard to manage on the computer.
Recording HighDefinintion is different compared to Standard Definition. Because of the higher quality panning & fast movement/jerking is picked up in the recording. It can be annoying to watch when playing back on a HDTV. My first recordings make you seasick when watching them on HDTV or SDTV's. So try to keep it smooth, the same way they record & broadcast television.
If you shoot everything in HighDefinition shouldn't be a problem. You can always use the outputs from the cam to make a Standard DVD on a dvd recorder very fast. You can also have VS or MF convert the avchd high defintion videos to Standard Definition and burn a standard dvd.
The one thing to remember with the new avchd format is you do need a fairly fast computer to edit, convert the videos and proper computer playback.
Have a nice trip, don't get wet! Definitely shoot the Falls in High Definition, use a tripod if possible.
VideoStudio 10+ will not work with HD AVCHD, only HighDefinition Mpeg2 video.
To work with VS & HighDefintion you would need to use VideoStudio 11+ or MovieFactory 6+.
If you didn't buy VS11+ yet you can also use MovieFactory 6+. I find MF6+ a little easier for new users to learn the workflow. My opinion of course. It outputs nice quality videos.
Some advice when shooting in HD mode with your camcorder. Hold the camcorder as steady as possible. When you pan & move/scan the scenery go very slow. When recording try to pause in between close recording sessions and not end the recording so the disk doesn't end up with hundreds of small 20 seconds clips that will be hard to manage on the computer.
Recording HighDefinintion is different compared to Standard Definition. Because of the higher quality panning & fast movement/jerking is picked up in the recording. It can be annoying to watch when playing back on a HDTV. My first recordings make you seasick when watching them on HDTV or SDTV's. So try to keep it smooth, the same way they record & broadcast television.
If you shoot everything in HighDefinition shouldn't be a problem. You can always use the outputs from the cam to make a Standard DVD on a dvd recorder very fast. You can also have VS or MF convert the avchd high defintion videos to Standard Definition and burn a standard dvd.
The one thing to remember with the new avchd format is you do need a fairly fast computer to edit, convert the videos and proper computer playback.
Have a nice trip, don't get wet! Definitely shoot the Falls in High Definition, use a tripod if possible.
Last edited by etech6355 on Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I am a bit confused... is it possible to import AVCHD videos into VS10v and then save the movie to a standard DVD? I don't have a HD burner anyway. My main concern is how to get AVCHD videos into VS10. Is it possible or do I need v11 to import those? I have learned V10 pretty good so I think I could learn V11 as well.
Thanks so much for the advice...
Thanks so much for the advice...
Last edited by Dabitz on Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.
1. Can I import AVCHD movies from a Sony Camcorder (mini DVD's in this HD format) to Video Studio 10v, then create regular DVD movies as I don't have an HD DVD Rom?
2. Or do I need Video Studio 11v in order to import AVCHD from mini DVD's to created standard DVD movies?
No matter what version I use, I will end up creating standard DVD movies anyway cause I don't have an HD DVD or Blue Ray DVD ROM.
Thanks and sorry for my dumbness...
2. Or do I need Video Studio 11v in order to import AVCHD from mini DVD's to created standard DVD movies?
No matter what version I use, I will end up creating standard DVD movies anyway cause I don't have an HD DVD or Blue Ray DVD ROM.
Thanks and sorry for my dumbness...
1. Can I import AVCHD movies from a Sony Camcorder (mini DVD's in this HD format) to Video Studio 10v, then create regular DVD movies as I don't have an HD DVD Rom?
NO
2. Or do I need Video Studio 11v in order to import AVCHD from mini DVD's to created standard DVD movies?
YES
No matter what version I use, I will end up creating standard DVD movies anyway cause I don't have an HD DVD or Blue Ray DVD ROM.
True, but if you do record in HD Mode you will need VS11+ or MF6+ work with the videos.
Hope this helps
NO
2. Or do I need Video Studio 11v in order to import AVCHD from mini DVD's to created standard DVD movies?
YES
No matter what version I use, I will end up creating standard DVD movies anyway cause I don't have an HD DVD or Blue Ray DVD ROM.
True, but if you do record in HD Mode you will need VS11+ or MF6+ work with the videos.
Hope this helps
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You haven't filled in your system details, but I hope you took note also of etech's comment that you need a fairly powerful computer to edit, and more to the point, even play back avchd video. Look at etech's system button to see what he uses.
If you look at my system button, I was trying to edit avchd using that computer and VS11.5+ and it was not only extremely slow (around 9 times real time to render an avchd file), but it would simply not play back properly. Very jerky. When I transferred it to a Core 2 Duo 2 GHZ machine with Vista, it played back properly.
Personally, I will be avoiding avchd cameras like the plague...
If you look at my system button, I was trying to edit avchd using that computer and VS11.5+ and it was not only extremely slow (around 9 times real time to render an avchd file), but it would simply not play back properly. Very jerky. When I transferred it to a Core 2 Duo 2 GHZ machine with Vista, it played back properly.
Personally, I will be avoiding avchd cameras like the plague...
Ken Berry
Hi Ken...
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2 GHz), 2GB Ram, NVidia AGP 512MB, XP Pro...
Did you have problems even if you used that "HD Super Proxy thing" advertised on V11?
I don't expect much from my system, but I was hoping that using the proxy feature would make things better. Again, I want to record on HD, so in the future I can go and create Blue-Ray movies... So at the present time I need to figure out how to best import the files and retain Dolby Digital 5.1.
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2 GHz), 2GB Ram, NVidia AGP 512MB, XP Pro...
Did you have problems even if you used that "HD Super Proxy thing" advertised on V11?
I don't expect much from my system, but I was hoping that using the proxy feature would make things better. Again, I want to record on HD, so in the future I can go and create Blue-Ray movies... So at the present time I need to figure out how to best import the files and retain Dolby Digital 5.1.
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Sorry, I am not an expert at all -- in fact quite dumb -- about avchd matters. I didn't use the Smart Proxy feature in converting HF mpeg-2 to the AVCHD file I used, just a straight render. No message about Smart Proxy popped up and I am afraid I simply forgot it was there as I have *never* used it in any other project either! 
etech is an expert on all this, so hopefully he will reappear to answer your question. Certainly, though, if you were ever seeking to play back avchd files on that computer, you would be in trouble (though I know you don't plan on doing that for the moment).
etech is an expert on all this, so hopefully he will reappear to answer your question. Certainly, though, if you were ever seeking to play back avchd files on that computer, you would be in trouble (though I know you don't plan on doing that for the moment).
Ken Berry
I think for what I want to do now, I will try to have the Sony software that came with my camera do a standard DVD, then do everything as I am used to. I would assume Sony will retain Dolby Digital when creating a DVD... as you might imagine, I am trying to retain as much quality as I can when downsampling... I was hoping that by xfering a virgin AVCHD file, work my editing, and then letting VS downconvert to DVD when creating a disk, I would retain more detail.
I think I open up a can of worms here...
I think I open up a can of worms here...
Ken,
Thank you for the compliment, not sure about the term expert but thanks.
I just wanted to add I have to update my system specs. glad you posted that.
Proxy files are used for editing the video, they take awhile to create. If you just want to convert the videos to dvd format that would be a straight conversion without a proxy file. On a slow computer you would need to use a proxy file for diret editing of the video..
I guess for anyone working with High Definition eventually all computers will be fast enough and within reasonable price. Computers just keep getting better & faster every year.
The most item is a good playback device connected to a HDTV. The end goal is to display the HighDef videos on HDTV, so a good multi-media playback device is necessary to do this. Either a blu-ray disk player, HD-DVD player, Sony PlayStation 3 and I'm sure there will be many devices in the near future as High Def becomes standard in the home.
Even if this poster doesn't have high def equipment yet that is just a matter of time. In a few years we probably will be forced to buy a HDTV. Standard Definition TV's may not be around much longer .Save the disks and files for when you do have equipment and remember anything you shoot will be passed down in the family. By the time the little ones are grown up they will be asking what is SD (Standard Definition).
Thank you for the compliment, not sure about the term expert but thanks.
I just wanted to add I have to update my system specs. glad you posted that.
Proxy files are used for editing the video, they take awhile to create. If you just want to convert the videos to dvd format that would be a straight conversion without a proxy file. On a slow computer you would need to use a proxy file for diret editing of the video..
I guess for anyone working with High Definition eventually all computers will be fast enough and within reasonable price. Computers just keep getting better & faster every year.
The most item is a good playback device connected to a HDTV. The end goal is to display the HighDef videos on HDTV, so a good multi-media playback device is necessary to do this. Either a blu-ray disk player, HD-DVD player, Sony PlayStation 3 and I'm sure there will be many devices in the near future as High Def becomes standard in the home.
Even if this poster doesn't have high def equipment yet that is just a matter of time. In a few years we probably will be forced to buy a HDTV. Standard Definition TV's may not be around much longer .Save the disks and files for when you do have equipment and remember anything you shoot will be passed down in the family. By the time the little ones are grown up they will be asking what is SD (Standard Definition).
I installed the trial version last night without removing the old one, now it crashes everytime I try to import a DVD, both regular DVD's and AVCHD. So I removed everything and tried to clean up my registry from everything ULEAD related. I installed V11 trial by itself but the problem still happening. Oh boy... I should've got a HI8 camcorder.... Sounds like a new computer might be in the horizon sometime next year pending wife's approval.