Your input please: VideoStudio "PRO"?

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:08 am

Why not do it like this:

From:
Creating a 'Ken Burns' effect with the Pan and Zoom Filter
Video Filters

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:25 am

I would...but lets say in that still you wanted to stop at one face in particular and highlight it but keep on moving along too (at the same time)

You would need two stills (or one with each highlight). If at that point you are zoomed in a fair amount you not only want to the zoom attributes but also the X:Y co-ordinates of the cross hair.

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:29 am

Black Lab wrote:And, apparently, it is dead in the water with no plans for an upgrade. That's why this thread was started - to see what the experienced users of VS would like to see in a prosumer version.

Umm, exactly,.. what about expreinced users of MSP that already have those capabilities? "experineced users of of VS????" They have no clue what MSP already offers..!!! How can they be of any use on commenting on what they want? If it's dead in the water, then my thinking is, it will take a long time to come up to date programming wise, (witch is funny as MSP already does a lot of what a "pro" version should do). GAHHH, maybe I should drop the whole line and just move on..

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:48 am

MrA wrote:
Black Lab wrote:And, apparently, it is dead in the water with no plans for an upgrade. That's why this thread was started - to see what the experienced users of VS would like to see in a prosumer version.
Umm, exactly,.. what about expreinced users of MSP that already have those capabilities? "experineced users of of VS????" They have no clue what MSP already offers..!!! How can they be of any use on commenting on what they want? If it's dead in the water, then my thinking is, it will take a long time to come up to date programming wise, (witch is funny as MSP already does a lot of what a "pro" version should do). GAHHH, maybe I should drop the whole line and just move on..

I see your point...as I have no idea what a Pro Version should do. Not sure I even need a Pro Version....yet.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:57 am

"experineced users of of VS????" They have no clue what MSP already offers..!!! How can they be of any use on commenting on what they want?

There are many on here who use, or have used, both versions. I trialed MSP but refuse to spend that kind of money on something that won't be upgraded or supported.

I know what the limitations of VS are. I know what other programs offer. I know what I want. Therefore, I can offer my opinion on what VS Pro should offer.

GAHHH, maybe I should drop the whole line and just move on..

Maybe you should.

MrA · Post by **MrA** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:59 am

Clevo wrote: I see your point...as I have no idea what a Pro Version should do. Not sure I even need a Pro Version....yet.

This is one other product I use. I love MSP and Ulead software, but, I beleive in "what ever it takes" to make a video.

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro/

I highly suggest, I want to stay with Ulead Software, but, I also use the above software. That is "pro" software. It's all about the end product. I make video for people that buy my service. And yes, people buy my service, AND 90% OF MY CUSTOMERS BUY WHAT I PRODUCE WITH ULEAD.!

And I use MSP 8.0.. go figure

bsuratt · Post by **bsuratt** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:29 pm

Simply clean up bugs in MSP8, complete HDV functionality with working SmartRender, update for Vista and... do what has been missing from Ulead software, (and continues to be Ulead's achilles heel!), provide adequate inhouse QA and debugging before releasing. Rename it if you wish and you have a Pro/Prosumer product!

Being a career software engineer I am certain that it would not take a great deal of effort to accomplish this *IF* you put some very capable professional people on it!

Clevo · Post by **Clevo** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:26 am

True audio scrubbing.

It could be the limitations of my PC system but when I want to Cue a shot to a particular sound scrubbing backwards and all I hear is forward sound from a few frames before.

It could be a setting I'm not aware of?

But I would like this aspect improved in the "pro" version

z3r3 · Post by **z3r3** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:31 am

Clevo wrote:
1) What size monitor do you have?

2) Audio still attached to video can be adjusted for the whole clip (or muted) with the icons avalable in the "Edit" panel. For background Natural Sound I set this to 10 (from 100).

1 -> 19" - I am used the fine detail I get on Audio apps such as Audacity.

2 -> Thanks that is useful to know.

Amalthia · Post by **Amalthia** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:00 pm

I love the storyboard aspect of editing with Video Studio but I also love the non-linear editing in Media Studio Pro 8. Is there any way to combine the locking your clips into place from MSP to VS or adding a storyboard view to MSP?

Basically the only thing VS doesn't have that I really really want besides a linux version is the abilty to lock your clips onto your timeline. (basically non-linear editing)

sjj1805 · Post by **sjj1805** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:29 am

All computer based video editing is non linear editing.
Here you have the entire video as a file on your hard drive and when you view it with suitable software you can "cut and paste" the video to provide a new video.
Think of it as "off line video editing"

On the other hand linear editing is when you have two or more live feeds - such as in a TV Studio with several cameras running and the editor flicks a switch to provide the feed from one camera and then flicks another switch to provide the feed from a different camera.
Think of it as "Live editing"

It also refers to when you have two or more video tape sources playing and the editor again flicks a switch to provide the feed from one video tape and then flicks another switch to provide the feed from a different tape.

Amalthia · Post by **Amalthia** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:52 am

sjj1805 wrote:All computer based video editing is non linear editing.

I'm not sure if you're yanking my chain but when I think non-linear editing programs I'm thinking of Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, Ulead Media Studio Pro, the programs where once you add your clip to the timeline it stays where you put it.

With Video Studio if you delete a clip from your timeline all the clips on the timeline shift to fill in that gap, which is highly annoying if you're trying to keep your clips on a beat.

Black Lab · Post by **Black Lab** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:17 am

VideoStudio does this in the main track so there are no blank spots. Put your clips in an overlay track and they will stay put.

Amalthia · Post by **Amalthia** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:55 am

Black Lab wrote:VideoStudio does this in the main track so there are no blank spots. Put your clips in an overlay track and they will stay put.

I've never really used the overlay track before and had no idea it worked like that. running off to test this.

Andy E · Post by **Andy E** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:54 am

Amalthia wrote:I'm not sure if you're yanking my chain but when I think non-linear editing programs I'm thinking of Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, Ulead Media Studio Pro, the programs where once you add your clip to the timeline it stays where you put it.

With Video Studio if you delete a clip from your timeline all the clips on the timeline shift to fill in that gap, which is highly annoying if you're trying to keep your clips on a beat.

No. Non-linear / linear editing is exactly as Steve's described it above. Linear editing is called that because you are pretty much constrained to editing the timeline in a straight line (linear) fashion - you start at the beginning and move forwards (moving backwards is difficult). Non-linear because you can move around on the timeline at will - if you decide you want to edit your rolling credits first you can.

...and with Vegas, Premiere and MSP, Ripple Deletes are also possible - they're just optional rather than mandatory.

For combination storyboard/timeline editing , Premiere Elements is very good. Drop your clips into the storyboard for a rought cut of your primary video track and then use the timeline to fine tune.